NBA News, NCAA Changing Landscape, NFL Draft w/ Warren Sapp, Gary Payton + Najee Goode| BetUS

April 7, 2021

Welcome to BetUS Unfiltered Episode 25. Najee Goode, is an American football linebacker, who won the Super Bowl LII when playing with the Philadelphia Eagles. He joins the show to share his NFL experience with the BetUS Unfiltered Crew, Warren Sapp, Gary Payton and Dawn Lupal.

In today’s show:
NCAA Changing Landscape – End of the NCAA’s Current Model?
NFL Draft – Justin Fields Mystery
Russell Westbrook vs Stephen A – Take the Bait or Walk Away?
NFL Extends Season to 17 Games

PODCAST TRANSCRIPTION

Dawn Lupul:
Hey, welcome to Unfiltered, brought to you by Bet US, America’s favorite sport book. We all know, you bet, you win… your ass gets paid! Your ass gets paid!

Gary Payton:
Your ass gets paid! Say it loud!

Dawn Lupul:
Then your ass is happy!

Warren Sapp:
Paid, paid, paid, paid, paid!

Dawn Lupul:
We like when that happens, it’s always a good thing. My guys are here, Warren Sapp in the house looking good as per usual, Gary Payton. You guys are just… you’re shining today, you’re beaming, I’m feeling like this is going to be an outstanding show and joining us too we have a special guest, gentlemen, because the more the merrier on this show. We have Mr. Najee Goode. Najee welcome to Unfiltered, I am so glad you were able to join us today.

Najee Goode:
What’s up fellows, how you guys doing?

Dawn Lupul:
We good.

Warren Sapp:
Good, good brother.

Gary Payton:
Good, good.

Dawn Lupul:
We’re always good.

Dawn Lupul:
Okay so we’ll give you a little introduction, because there is a little Tampa Bay reference going on here. But first, we’ll start back in the day –

Najee Goode:
Yeah I got a story about that.

Dawn Lupul:
We like stories about Tampa Bay, or its Tampa Bay now, we call it. Benedictine High School is where you showed your athletic prowess back in the day and you lettered in both Track and Field and Football. You were a dual threat, in fact, you quarterbacked and you were a linebacker as well. Warren was like a quadruple threat. Warren was a linebacker, tight-end, place kicker and a punter. In case you didn’t know.

Najee Goode:
Trying to be like Warren.

Dawn Lupul:
Warren, Warren was – [crosstalk 00:01:36]

Warren Sapp:
Hey man, in high school, in high school, we could do it all baby.

Dawn Lupul:
You get out there. You play. You play, for sure. Najee played for Tampa, who drafted him, Philadelphia, Jacksonville, and Indianapolis as well. Kind of a cool little story is that, your dad, John Goode, also played for Philadelphia, and you were the first father-son duo team in Philadelphia’s history to play for the same team. So that’s cool. Of course he went to college and had a nice career there, but the big thing that I get from your college days, Najee, and we’re going to get into the NCAA today, quite a bit. But you majored in Industrial and Mechanical Engineering, while at West Virginia. That’s some serious studying going on.

Gary Payton:
Ah damn!

Warren Sapp:
Shit! Oh we got a real brainiac in here. Last week we had a [inaudible 00:02:26]. I like it!

Dawn Lupul:
Tell us about your college days Najee.

Najee Goode:
West Virginia was kind of a, just random pick. My family, my uncles, my cousins, they all played for Jim Tressel, Ohio State, Youngstown State. And I was just like, basically, ‘naw I don’t want to do that’. And I thought I was going away somewhere far, and then I ended up going three hours down the road, to Morgan Town. It was the number one party school at the time, so they had me sold. And then we had just won the Sugar Bowl. So I got to play with Pat White, Steve Slaton, and ended up red-shirting, after getting a little bit of experience and ended up, where I am today. Getting drafted by Tampa, winning the Superbowl in Philly and having a good career.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah exactly, I mean you get to take that with you for the rest of your days: you won the championship. The same with my guys, here. You know it’s not the easiest thing to do and to win two seems almost impossible, but to get that one is certainly special. So, let’s talk a little bit about the things you did early on. It can’t be easy, going through a program like what you went through. Industrial Mechanical Engineering, while playing football. How do you juggle the two?

Najee Goode:
It wasn’t that bad as far as, you know, distractions

Gary Payton:
Damn! Damn! It wasn’t that bad, huh?! Damn!

Warren Sapp:
Shit, I’m sitting here trying to say it, it’s getting hard to say! Shit!

Gary Payton:
Wow!

Najee Goode:
Naw, the funny thing about, I mean y’all familiar – you got college campuses, you got a couple different campuses. I didn’t have classes with the rest of the team. I had classes with one of my boys who I actually got drafted with, Keith Tandy, he coaches down there in Tampa now. And you know, for us, getting back and forth to class, I literally just used to fall out my bed and roll right over to the engineering campus. And since I was the only football player in there, everybody looked at me funny when I came in the class. So I used to just sit there, and I got all my notes, direct from the teacher. And the best part about it was that, with – in respects to athletes that’s in the program, they were able to help us out. We got to do a lot of cool things. We never really sat around the classroom. I always got to put my hands on something, move around, so you know, it played into us just being mobile, being able to figure things out.

Warren Sapp:
Okay. Okay, I got to ask you, what are you putting your hands on now with that brain you have up top, because I know the football ain’t knocked nothing loose so, what are you putting your hands on now brother?

Najee Goode:
Everything. Naw. Right now I co-founded a technology company, we actually work with the NFL Alumni, partnered with the NFL to make every piece of digital media interactive. So we could take this podcast, this video cast right now, and I can actually click on your shirt if its in a team app, and I could buy it right now.

Warren Sapp:
Oo oo.

Dawn Lupul:
Very cool. A company called VPO, so shout out to that and that’s making all media interactive. That’s some pretty cool stuff. Obviously your lessons were well-learned early on. I want to get to your story about Tampa Bay before we go any further, because it sounds like it could be a good one.

Najee Goode:
Oh yeah, that’s one funny story about this dude. Oh yeah, the first time I met Sapp, it was actually 2012 when I got drafted. I came down there and we had Greg Schiano as the Head Coach and it was rough. It was rough. Our conditioning test was 16, 110’s and I’m looking at Frank Okam and Gerald McCoy, and then he looked at me and, no Frank looked at me and Sapp had just came in for something, and it was me, Carl, Nick, and I’m there with Lavontae David, Keith Tandy, Mark Barron. And I’m looking at Gerald and Frank, and he looked at me and he said, ‘man, when the last time you did this shit?’ And I said, ‘did what?’ He said, ‘ran 16 110’s’. And then I specifically remembered, you was walking out, ‘y’all ’bout to do this?’ And then Sapp just shook his head and was like, ‘hell naw, I’ll never do that’.

Warren Sapp:
You know what the best part is, brother? Every year at the University of Miami: 16 110’s was the test.

Najee Goode:
That’s where he came from.

Warren Sapp:
I know, that’s where he got indoctrinated at, and figured out that’ll make a man out of you. But not on a professional level, that’s bull shit. In college, you’re supposed to have shit like that, it looks insurmountable. And then you think about, you’re like, “damn that’s about, four miles”.

Dawn Lupul:
You paid your dues by the time you got there, so it’s like –

Warren Sapp:
Yeah! I get a check, damn that! I get a check now, damn that. 16 my ass! I’m be (inaudible) to you Schiano. You run them. Shitting me. 16 110’s. I’m a paid professional.

Dawn Lupul:
GP, did they make you guys do that kind of stuff in the NBA too, that kind of, like, hard running up and down?

Gary Payton:
Yeah, we had them, but that was during training camp. That was in the day though. Sometimes you just had to do it one time if you didn’t make it. They make you do it until you made it and then you couldn’t go to practice, so it was cool. But, that was good for us though, because it got our ass in shape. You know what I’m saying? When you’re trying to come up in there and you’re not in shape, man and then all of a sudden, you get to practicing and the coach get mad at you and shit, then you’ll be like, “whew man!”. So it was good for us, man. Showed you who was in shape and who was doing what they were supposed to do by the time we got training camp. But it was cool. With me, I always stayed in shape, so it was a real breeze for me. I was breezing through it.

Warren Sapp:
Naw! When they give you a heads up, that you have to do this, then we good. But when it get thrown on you?

Gary Payton:
Yeah, when you’re a star, you’re the superstar, they’re going to tell you what’s happening. They tell Warren, “look here man, just come in here, in decent shape”, you know what I’m saying?

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no, no, no, no! If you would’ve gave me 16, I would’ve did 16, no problem. But just don’t throw it at me out of the damn blue. That’s some bullshit.

Gary Payton:
Now, that ain’t going to work, because I would’ve probably been partying two days before that, I’d be like, “man look here man, tell me days before man, so I can get ready for it”.

Warren Sapp:
I need 30 days for 16 110’s, no doubt about it. I need a month. I need a good month.

Dawn Lupul:
Speaking of college superstars, this is going to morph into what is a really important topic, right now and it’s the NCAA, and all the changes that are potentially happening, that are happening, we’re seeing it. And part of the superstars, what we’re seeing now, Najee, coming out of high school, these kids of course are being flagged, they’re identified as elite. And now they’re having some choices, like in the NBA especially, you know you got the G league, you got a team called the Elite now. And coming out of this year’s edition of the Elite, it looks like there could be two or three, top 10 for sure, top five even, draft prospects, who are playing not traditionally going through the college route – four. Gary’s saying four, of them, so yeah.

Warren Sapp:
We see you, GP, we see you. We see you.

Dawn Lupul:
Absolutely. So of course you’ve got one of the highest ones, Jalen Green, is one of the highest ones. Now, what they’re doing is, they’re paying these kids, right? Jalen Green got paid $500,000, not to go to college. To go and play for the Ignite instead, for the G League.

Warren Sapp:
Whoa. Sign me up. Sign me up.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah, go ahead GP.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, you know Dawn the other three, one of them got 300, the other one got 250 and one of them got 400. So, the G League, that’s what its coming to. You remember, when the kid from LA went all the way over to Australia, or something. He was the first one, Brandon Jennings went over there first and got paid like 100 or 100,000, 150,000, that was in the day. But they’re going to start doing that, because they don’t want to go college, because they don’t want to go class. They don’t want to be there for five or six years.

Warren Sapp:
A fool can’t make no money in school, GP.

Gary Payton:
Yep! That’s what it is. If they’re going to give you $500,000 just to play basketball, coming out of high school –

Warren Sapp:
Go set your mama up. Go set your mama up with a nice house and then go to work, because you got another contract in front of it. Why would you to some college – you see Ronald Williams has bowed out. It’s some more about to bow out. I told y’all, it’s time for them old heads to go away. I’m telling you. These kids just don’t care no more, GP. These kids do not care no more. They don’t give a damn about your history, your legacy, nothing. It’s about me. And if you ain’t about me, I need to get from around you.

Gary Payton:
And that’s true.

Dawn Lupul:
What do you think about that, Najee? What do you think about that, because you actually used your college career, obviously, to benefit you. You got a real education. What are your thoughts?

Warren Sapp:
We did too, Dawn, I just didn’t get a piece of paper to hang on the wall.

Dawn Lupul:
But you got the money.

Warren Sapp:
Hey, hey, hey, listen, mama got to eat baby. Mama got to eat.

Najee Goode:
I definitely think that no matter what, they’re needs to be a solution to compensate the likeness of what kids are putting out there today because, just thinking about the tradition of everything, what’s going on at school, basketball alone just because they can play at a younger age professionally, and then when you talk about college football, the amounts of money that they do. And looking at the deals, its something similar to the NFL, just within college. And one of the things that we have been working on with our company, being able to account for the likeness, the actual influence that each player has, they definitely should be compensated somehow. Whether that’s paying them while they’re playing or, wait to give them the money after they get done playing, or actually finding a way to roll that up into extra checks they can get. But you don’t want everybody in college rolling around in Bentleys, and everything like that.

Warren Sapp:
They’re rolling around in some nice ass shoes and a whole bunch of tattoos, I know that.

Najee Goode:
But Najee that’s true too, but what they’re doing in basketball now, is we’re going to start getting endorsements. So you’re going to start to be able to do commercials, you’re going to start being able to do likenesses, like you said, with getting watches deals and shirt deals. They’re going to start getting paid like that in about a year and a half. That’s what’s going to make them come back to college. Like myself, I went four years and graduated too, got a broadcasting communications degree. So, its like, some of these guys need to stay in school because they don’t really know how to, after they get through playing, to have money and to do businesses like yourself. And like me and Warren, me and Warren went through a long process of jacking off a lot of money, but then at the end of our career, we –

Warren Sapp:
Stop, stop!

Gary Payton:
Stop! We’re going to have to get paid, we’re going to have to make something, you know what I’m saying? Because we jacked off a lot of money on our career. But now we understood it, now we done got older, that we could have saved a lot of more money. And these kids are going to do it. They’re going to be 18, 19. But it’s gone end sometime. And it’s gone end. And when you end, you’re going to think about it, I was paying this dude this –

Warren Sapp:
I can’t believe I paid for this dumb ass car, soon as I signed my name, 80 grand went off of it. Oh my God! Oh my God!

Gary Payton:
It ain’t worth nothing. $500,000 Rolls Royce. And when you trade it in, it’s only worth 230. Man, come on man, we ain’t doing all that, man no more. That ain’t going to work for me.

Warren Sapp:
I didn’t ride that good for 250, GP.

Dawn Lupul:
So Najee, what do you think? I mean it’s hard to say, but what do you think the college landscape looks like five years from now? I mean, they’re talking about revenue sharing, guaranteed lifetime scholarships, covering out of pocket medical expenses for current and former athletes, allowing players to sign sponsorship deals, which Gary was just talking about.

Warren Sapp:
About time they get to the insurance. We look at a college football stadium and everybody in there, if they get hurt, is on Workman’s Comp. and insurance and covered, except the kids playing the game. Even the guy with the popcorn, if he trips and fall down them stairs, they’re going to give him Workman’s Comp. and everything. The kids are not covered. It’s crazy! It’s crazy!

Najee Goode:
I think that, yeah I think that what’s going to happen, the first thing that’s going to happen is, they’re going to establish a baseline, they can do it conference by conference. Because the schools like Alabama, they’re definitely are going to want to be compensated more than a school like John [crosstalk 00:14:52]. They definitely will have a, I think it’s going to be an established baseline, once you get on the team, just like the league, you can get a certain portion, whether that’s based off the practice squad and all that. But there’s definitely a market where they can do that, they do it in the league right now. And a lot of those same principles are going to be carried out through the NCAA and through the conferences because, I think that the NCAA will make more if they would implement a system to compensate the players because then you get the players going back to school.

Warren Sapp:
You get a better product. You get a product on the field because, nobody wants to leave school when you’re getting a check like that and you’re already taking care of the rent.

Dawn Lupul:
But that was always one of their big arguments, the NCAA, that the viewership would go down if all of a sudden these kids are being treated like professionals. But I think they’re completely, that’s a baseless argument. I don’t see that being even remotely factual.

Warren Sapp:
That sounds like fraud in the election, just some shit that’s made up.

Gary Payton:
Dawn, that’s telling me right now, Dawn, the pros are going to start going down because they’re getting paid.

Warren Sapp:
What?! I ain’t leaving school, I ain’t leaving school! I always said, I would’ve stayed at the University of Miami if they paid my rent and gave me about 30 grand a year. I would’ve never left college. Never!

Gary Payton:
You see why I was there for four years.

Warren Sapp:
I did my four. I did my four! I did two, I did two. Because they were not giving out this kind of money, GP. I look at my nephew, now dog, he got chargers, tattoos, this and that, nice goose feathered jacket, he up in Wisconsin, Camp Randal. I’m like dog, you better check on that, dog, we don’t want the NCAA around here. I ain’t sent nobody that kind of money. He was like, no, no, he’s getting it from the school. About damn time.

Dawn Lupul:
We just saw the NCAA basketball wind up with March Madness. It was hugely successful.

Warren Sapp:
Gary, Gary, you got your money?

Warren Sapp:
Fast pay, make fast friends.

Dawn Lupul:
But Gary, what do you think, going forward? There’re the haves and the have-nots in these schools, that’s the way it is. So, not everyone in college is a star. What do you think, GP, how does this change the whole landscape of things?

Gary Payton:
Well, you know what Dawn? To me, that stars are going to leave. The ones who are going to be, one and done, the ones who are going to be there for only five and six months. Now, we do have to start worrying about the other kids that’s not going to be able to be the number one draft pick, or they’re not in top 60 in drafting. Or they’re not in a high draft, and let them come back and play and then kind of say to them, for making they’re team better. I like players coming back and building teams. If the whole Baylor team comes back next year, then they’ll probably win another championship and people want to see that.

Warren Sapp:
Oh my God! Oh my God!

Gary Payton:
And they want to see that. They got recruits coming in, so them kids like Mitchell, just said, coming in, he’s leaving. So we got to bring another guy back in. But I’d like Stan to say, “okay let’s play two or three years together, and see how many championships we can win”. We just blew out a Gonzaga team that everybody thought was invincible, which wasn’t! So now let’s see if we can come back and blow them and out let us go undefeated. Now if they didn’t go into COVID, and have people with positive tests, they would have even lost two games. I’m just saying that for a fact.

Warren Sapp:
GP, those kids do not look at the history of the game and think about, let’s join Quinn Buckner and Isaiah Thomas as the second team, I was three years old when that went down in 1976. Me and my son were talking about, he was like, “Dad, you were three years old?” Yeah, I was a little fellow, I was nothing. I was still doo-doo-ing in my pants. I didn’t even know what was going on. That’s how long its been since we’ve seen that kind of excellence go down. So, I don’t believe them kids are not going to come together, because Mitchell, you’re an all right player, but you ain’t no top 10. I always thought to leave school, you got to tell me I’m one of the top 10 going out of the door. I was 12, but you know some other things happened, but I was top 10. I had top 10 talent. That’s where you got to be to leave school, because, dog that check is good. That check is good.

Gary Payton:
But what is happening now, though Warren, the agents are saying, “you just had a great tournament. You were one of the top players”.

Warren Sapp:
Wait, wait, stop right there. Soon as you say, agent, isn’t he the employee? I’m the CEO. I’m the CEO, I don’t want to hear nothing from nobody, that ain’t put they’re ass out here and worked his ass off. I want to look at it, where have they changed the rule where you don’t go into the draft, just don’t hire an agent and you come back?

Gary Payton:
But he’s hiring an agent because he already said he has confidence.

Warren Sapp:
No! No, somebody got to call him, somebody got to call him. Damn confident. Let it go down, like it go down and you’re all alone. Because you don’t need an employee because you don’t have a check to play the employee yet.

Dawn Lupul:
Najee, this is how this show goes because, I was going to be Warren’s agent, but he offered me two percent.

Warren Sapp:
That’s all you getting, shit that’s all you getting. Don’t get mad. They get $15 at McDonald’s and they got billions and billions served!

Dawn Lupul:
Needless to say, our negotiations broke down very quickly after that. I want to get into the NCAAF as well, but we’ll segue to that by getting into the NFL draft which is coming up, and oh boy, there’s a lot going on. So let’s start with…

Warren Sapp:
They’re going to guess. That’s what they’re going to do. They’re going to pull a fucking hat and put that maze in the damn thing and just spin it around dog, and they’re going to pull out, and be like, “here we go”.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah, pretty much, well first, why don’t I just, While I have you Najee, I’m going to ask you this question and I hope it doesn’t put you on the spot. You played for Philly, won the Superbowl there, you played for Indianapolis, so you have a connection with a little bit of both quarterback movement, with Carson Wentz going to the Colts, is he going to be the “guy” there? Is there something left, there of Carson?

Najee Goode:
Yeah, I think it is, I mean I think that Carson, the style of player that he is, knowing him personally, that was the right fit with him and Frank. And I mean, its honestly like, Carson is Frank, 20, 30 years younger. You know, its talking to the same dude, they got that type of vibe together, and I know that’s a huge reason as to why he went there. And I mean on top of that too, the Colts got a great foundation that they get to build off of, and if they have a Quarterback that makes a little bit different decision, then I don’t knock Phil at all. I played against Phil my whole career…

Warren Sapp:
Phillip Rivers is an asshole, I’ll say it for you. Absolute asshole. I’ll say it for you, he is the worst. He is the damn worst.

Dawn Lupul:
Warren’s a huge fan.

Najee Goode:
Hey, he was talking shit today. He was like, “Oh you old? I’m old too, but you look more beat up than me”.

Warren Sapp:
I’m tell you, I’m telling you. He is an asshole.

Najee Goode:
And he never swears. So when he talks, you want him, you almost want him to cuss.

Warren Sapp:
You want him to cuss! You want him to come with that, “dagummit!” And all of that and ugh…get on out my face. Punk.

Najee Goode:
Naw, I think that he is going to pick up right where he left off. They got good receivers. His big thing was just staying healthy. I mean, when he played and got hurt in the play offs, he got smacked by Tren’Davian, got knocked out. And he was coming off of a three or four game winning streak in December. And now with the running backs they got, Marlon Mack, Jonathan Taylor, you know I think he’s going to make it. He’s going to make some noise. Indianapolis is definitely going to be a front runner in the Epsom South.

Dawn Lupul:
Do you think that Carson could have led the team there? He was injured.

Najee Goode:
I mean, when he was playing that year, we were running out the game just waiting to get up because Schwartz was just like, “go blitz the shit out of them”. I remember we came in at half time, we was beating them by two or three touchdowns. He’s looking over at us, I got the mic in my hand and I’m like what you want to call? We got a good quarterback, so you can call what you want to call.

Warren Sapp:
So you telling me Big Nick is not your favorite quarterback of all time?

Najee Goode:
Hey, that’s my dog, man.

Warren Sapp:
I just want to ask, “hey, is Big Dick Nick not your favorite quarterback of all time?”

Najee Goode:
For quarterback?

Warren Sapp:
Oh no, that is his name in Philly. Boy, he is legendary in Philly because I was supposed to go to Philly, and Philly made a bad call and I used to go up there all the time and see the Allen Iverson play off games. So I got deep roots in Philly, you know what I’m saying? Mel’s up in Norbridge, you know Mama’s, don’t you young fellow? See what I’m saying? That one ain’t on the Beacon Trail, you got to go find Mama’s. So, that’s why I say that. Big Dick Nick, boy, they love them some Big Dick Nick from Philly.

Dawn Lupul:
I’m just saying, Warren, kind of awkward if he comes into the locker room and Najee’s like, “Hey Big Dick Nick!” You didn’t do that, did you?

Warren Sapp:
Listen, Jim Brown was our correspondent over at Showtime when I worked with Phil and the boys over at Showtime. Her first production meeting, she said, “Warren, you went to school with my boyfriend”. I went to Miami, you know it’s 80 mothers up in that locker room, you know what I’m saying? Who are you talking about? She’s like, “Dave Jankowski”. I looked over at her, like, “Big Dick Dave?” She said, “Yeah!” Trust me! Those names are earned.

Dawn Lupul:
Where do you keep your ring Najee? Where do you keep your Superbowl ring?

Najee Goode:
I keep it in my box upstairs, you know I only take it out for special occasions.

Warren Sapp:
Underwear drawer. Not in your underwear drawer?

Najee Goode:
You said is it where?

Dawn Lupul:
In the underwear drawer.

Najee Goode:
That’s where mine at. That’s where mine at. Where yours at GP? Come on!

Dawn Lupul:
Where’s yours GP?

Gary Payton:
You know Warren, I gave mine to my mom, she just passed away.

Warren Sapp:
Damn, hate to hear that, baby.

Gary Payton:
I got it back, so then I threw it into one of my safes. But you know man, I made a duplicate of it. I made a better one with more diamonds on it. And it was more smaller. So, right now that ones sitting on my desk.

Warren Sapp:
Hey, hey! I thought I was bad, because I changed the color of mine, from yellow gold to white gold, because you know, my bracelet. No, no it matches my Rolex and my…you know? Come on.

Gary Payton:
I did my hall of fame ring like that too, though.

Warren Sapp:
No, no, I left that one, I left that one, I left that one.

Gary Payton:
I gave my ex-wife that one. And I gave her the original one and I made me another one, man.

Dawn Lupul:
A better one.

Warren Sapp:
Hey Gary, you know they make pendants for the ladies, right?

Gary Payton:
Oh, that’s okay. She can have that, man, I didn’t want that.

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no, I was just saying, I keep hearing you giving them away to the ladies. They make little pendants.

Gary Payton:
She got pendants too. She got pendants too.

Warren Sapp:
You gave up the ring and a pendant? I love you. You the best. Can I be your nephew? Can I be your nephew? Can I be your nephew?

Gary Payton:
Oh yeah! All day long!

Warren Sapp:
All right.

Dawn Lupul:
I’ll be your next ex-wife if you’re giving that stuff away.

Gary Payton:
Hey Dawn, I got you, I got you Dawn.

Dawn Lupul:
All right, we’re in. Najee, welcome to the crazy house.

Najee Goode:
I love it.

Dawn Lupul:
Let’s rewind a little bit, on that note, because I’m here blushing again. So, Justin Fields is get talked about a little bit later. Is it a coincidence that of course because an African American quarterback, it seems like every time we have one high up in the draft, although its less noticeable now, because we’ve had some serious MVPs in the last couple of years, who happen to be, you know, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and three in the top ten, Russel, last name Wilson. That’s for you Warren.

Warren Sapp:
I know, baby.

Dawn Lupul:
Shaun Watson and Dak Prescott. So all of a sudden, Dan Orlovsky, for some reason decided to question Fields’ work ethic based, on hearsay.

Warren Sapp:
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, we not even going to talk about Dan Orlovsky on this show, for two reasons: it’s Dan Orlovsky and his ass ran out of the back of the end zone, for a safety, with the ball cocked, after he took two steps out of bounds, didn’t even know he was out of bounds, so damn a work ethic. If your ass don’t know where the end of the end zone is, don’t talk to me about no damn quarterback. Period. Period. Period!

Dawn Lupul:
Najee, how do you deal with that? You were in Philly and those were some of the, like, most critical media. The fans get crazy, right? How do you deal with that stuff?

Najee Goode:
You love it, you learn to love it, man. We had to deal with living about two minutes from Nick in 2013, Nick threw like 29 touchdowns, three picks. He had fans showing up at his house, ready to kiss his face.You learn to love it man. When the media come at you, like that. Because in Philly, you can pop up and go do an autograph signing, they cut you five to $10,000, you never know who it is and, you know what I mean? And at the same time those same fans will turn around and tell you they’re going to cut your throat, and slash your tires. So once you understand how they love you, it’s hard.

Warren Sapp:
Oh, no! What have you done for me lately. All right Dawn, I hear you girl, I love it. You on it.

Dawn Lupul:
That’s the truth. That’s the truth.

Warren Sapp:
That’s any sport, that’s any sport. Play well, they love you. You lose that play off game, dammit, my rent money was on that bitch this week.

Dawn Lupul:
For sure, for sure. Gary I hear rumors that you might get, like, the quarterback situation for the top five picks, is kind of changing a lot. So Trevor Lawrence seems to be spoken for, coming out of Clemson. Looks like he’s going to Jacksonville. Where does Justin Fields go, do you think?

Warren Sapp:
That’s that reaching in the bag that I’m telling you about.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah, its tough, right?

Warren Sapp:
They’re going to reach in, because all these quarterbacks underneath Trevor Lawrence, and I don’t separate Trevor that much from them. They’re all in the same category. Because, I remember in the championship game, it was second and nine. And they ran a quarterback lead draw with Trevor Lawrence. I went, “they don’t run a fucking quarterback lead draw second and nine in the NFL”, and that’s the number one pick? Something is fishy with this shit. You don’t run a quarterback lead on second and nine, and you got the number one pick. You drop the fuck back, and do what you do. I’m just not sold on Trevor Lawrence over there in that offense, because he played with some super brothers. That’s all I’m going to say. You put the ball in ATM hand and some of them receivers he had, and they cut ass. So, let’s see. Let’s see.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, but I think Fields is going to either go to the Jets, or my team, 49ers.

Warren Sapp:
There you go, I was about to say, your team.

Gary Payton:
We’re not going to pass him up, if he’s there. Because we got two players, we got all the quarterbacks in our conference, which we’ll have, now Stanford. Then we got Murray, who is at Arizona, then you got Wilson who’s at the Seahawks, and us. We can’t compete with them, with that, and we need to have a quarterback that’s mobile like that. We might beat the Rams all the time, but we damn sure can’t beat Seattle all the time. You know what I’m saying? They be busting our head open. You know what I’m saying?

Gary Payton:
And then, now, you know, now that, Arizona’s doing well, and Murray, he kills us every time. He runs the ball, he has 100 yards on us, he can pass for like two, 300 yards, he done dit it for the last two years. So, I think the 49ers, when they got a taste of it last year, to go to the Superbowl, now, and then they got Hurd with Garop (Garoppolo). They’re going to want a quarterback that’s going to want to do the same thing. And I think, if defense comes back right, which it should, I think they’re going to want their offense the same way, so they can punish people. Because our conference is getting better and better each year.

Warren Sapp:
I got this for you, I got this for you, GP. I hit John Lynch, and I said, Fields. He ain’t hit me back. That’s a good sign.

Gary Payton:
Yeah.

Warren Sapp:
That’s a good sign. Because he know our podcast on Wednesday, I said, “he won’t give me no information, right now,” what kind of shit is that?

Dawn Lupul:
Which of those kids do you like Najee, coming out? You have Lawrence, you have Fields, you got Zach Wilson…

Najee Goode:
I’m down here in Jacksonville, they got Trevor Lawrence scattered everywhere. But Justin Fields, now I think he’s definitely going to San Fran (San Francisco).

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no! We asked, “who you like?” Who you like in this ball of ‘pick them’, right now? Because without Trevor, he’s going to Duval. So the rest, who you like next?

Najee Goode:
I like Fields, definitely. You know, I’m like, iffy on Trey Lance, just because I don’t know that much about him. I see the highlights, and all of that, but I think he’s going to be nice. Justin Fields, the game, watching him against Clemson, I mean, he goes toe to toe. He definitely got some weapons out there. Ultimately, I think that’s what’s going to happen. You take a season where they started late, and how the NFL looked last year, a lot of cats getting hurt. And now you got college, players that didn’t even play. The gap got just that much wider, when it comes to experience and talent.

Warren Sapp:
How in the hell, you audition for a job at home on the couch?

Najee Goode:
Hey, it could’ve been a gym in the garage.

Warren Sapp:
I’ve never seen a hall of famer talk about their gym in the garage, that’s all I mean, we go every year, so, I just want to know, how in the hell you audition to take mama, and put mama on retirement and your ass is on the couch watching soap operas?

Najee Goode:
That’s a good show, you better be watching it.

Warren Sapp:
I hope it is, because your ass ain’t going to get paid watching that shit, I promise you that.

Dawn Lupul:
I like Fields going to the 49ers because I think there’s a lot more weapons. I don’t know if the Jets is a great place for a new, young quarterback.

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no, no, leave the Jets alone, Lord Jesus! Oh Lord.

Dawn Lupul:
I like the Jets, but…

Warren Sapp:
You’re going to hurt my stomach, you’re going to hurt my stomach.

Gary Payton:
When the head coach comes for the 49ers and he might just pass him up just to give it to the 49ers, to be a compliment. You know what I’m saying? They work together now, they might work together, now.

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no, no! Not in the NFL. They’ll sell you bad information in the NFL just for you not to pick somebody. Trust me. They love lying and cheating in the NFL. Because if you ain’t lying and cheating, you ain’t trying to win. That’s my dog! That’s right on cue, boy! That’s right on cue, boy! You learning, I like it.

Dawn Lupul:
We want to make a little money on this show too, so Najee, I don’t know if you’re a betting man, do you partake in the odd futures wager once in a while? Do you look and see and say, “this team I like?”

Najee Goode:
I play in Tampa. We got the Hardrock Seminole, so look…

Warren Sapp:
You like the one arm bandit, you like that one arm bandit don’t you? Hey, a little piece of information for y’all: Tampa Seminole Hardrock has the most one arm bandits of any casino in America, per capita.

Dawn Lupul:
Not my thing. You develop that bicep on that side, I guess.

Warren Sapp:
Dawn! You can push the button. There’s a button there too. You can just push the button, yeah you can just push the button. Don’t worry.

Dawn Lupul:
No, if you’re going to do it, you got to be like this.

Warren Sapp:
She said you going to do it, you got to pull it! I like it.

Dawn Lupul:
I did not say that!

Warren Sapp:
That’s what she said. That’s what she said.

Dawn Lupul:
Najee, I have some odds for you. I’m not talking to you anymore, Monsieur Sapp. So, the NCAA app, I mentioned that I wanted to talk about them because a lot of these quarterbacks that we’ve been mentioning are obviously leaving their schools and going on. But, it’s like teams like Alabama, Nick Saban, always seems to come up with something new that just fits the void. So, we look at our futures for the NCAAF Championship of the upcoming year. We have Alabama sitting at currently plus 250, Clemson at plus 400. It’s the usual cast of characters. There’s no surprises here. Ohio State at plus 635, Georgia was higher but now they’re down to 550 and Oklahoma is 750.

Warren Sapp:
Dawn

Dawn Lupul:
Yes, what are you betting?

Warren Sapp:
Dawn, the four rivers in the world that flow south to north. One of them is the Saint John’s River, right over there in Duval County where he at. You see him nod his head, he knows. Do you know why the Saint John’s River flows south to north.

Dawn Lupul:
No, I don’t.

Warren Sapp:
Because Georgia sucks! Not betting on Georgia! Not betting on Georgia. Not betting on Georgia, baby.

Dawn Lupul:
They have nice peaches in Georgia.

Warren Sapp:
Oh, lovely peaches baby, love, and their sweet and love to eat, and the pecans is lovely too, yes. You have that right, but their football team? No thank you.

Dawn Lupul:
What do you think Najee? Should we just jump on Alabama right now and just assume that Saban’s going to have something going on?

Najee Goode:
I like Alabama and O State (Ohio State). I’ve seen O State’s young talent they got at QB so I think buddy’s going to be nice. I’m definitely thinking Ohio State.

Warren Sapp:
Yeah, I’m definitely betting them bottom two. I’m betting Ohio State, Clemson. That’s nice, that’s nice, that’s nice. I like that too brother, yes.

Dawn Lupul:
What do you think Gary? Are you in on any of this? Do you like Clemson maybe? They’re at 400, I don’t know.

Gary Payton:
No, I’m thinking Ohio State too. That young crew like he said, Najee, they’re kind of deep. They’re deep and decent. I think they’re going to give a run for it. I like Ohio State too. I put my money on Ohio State.

Warren Sapp:
I got this for you, GP. This the only problem with Big 10 Teams.

Najee Goode:
Oklahoma.

Warren Sapp:
They don’t have any trench players that can move. Whenever you got them fat linemen that can’t move and, boy…and then Alabama shows up with four or five linemen that can rush and do the thing and then two or three all American old linemen. They control the trenches. That’s why them Big 10 teams cannot compete with the South.

Gary Payton:
Oh that’s what you’re saying, like what Baylor did to Gonzaga?

Warren Sapp:
No, no! That’s totally different. Hey, let’s just keep that real. Timmy from Gonzaga walked on that floor on Monday night and looked around and said, “damn I’m the fourth, maybe fifth best player on the fucking court”. And it happened real fast. And then Suggs had to get shocked, because he was out there with Gonzaga and them, not really playing nobody and now all of a sudden it was a bunch of brothers on the floor. And they were just as fast, just as athletic and they were taking charges. Oh when I saw the charge they take, I said, “oh their ass is grass”. Their ass is grass. I said, boy…and the bad part about it is Butler, who is the dog, said, “I’m going to facilitate T-31 to night, because my dog didn’t get off the other night. So we’re going to go through him. And still had 22! Lord have mercy Jesus.

Warren Sapp:
GP, boy they played tactician basketball. They lit their ass up. Timmy was in the paint, looking around at them two Africans, like, “Oh my God, where they get them from?”

Dawn Lupul:
That was good stuff. You guys we have to say goodbye to Najee, because well a guy who is an Industrial Mechanical Engineer, you know he’s busy.

Warren Sapp:
He got to do something. We don’t want to pollute your mind over no more over here at Unfiltered, because we can get a little rough. It get a little rough.

Najee Goode:
Ah man, it need to be unpolluted.

Dawn Lupul:
We can find out more about your stuff that you’re doing on the web, right? Where do we look for Veepio?

Najee Goode:
Yeah, you can find out right now on the web, we are integrated in team apps, we’re actually working on Tampa. We’re integrated with the Eagles, the Jaguars. Basically, some of the servers that we provide on the players…

Warren Sapp:
We’re looking for a website we can go to. Veepio.com?

Najee Goode:
That’s it.

Warren Sapp:
There it is.

Gary Payton:
We’re going to look it up too.

Warren Sapp:
I’m going to teach you how to do this young fellow, because I know you know how to integrate shit, but I know how to get right to the point.

Najee Goode:
I’m down with it.

Gary Payton:
I got a tech company too. It’s called Game On, look it up and download the app.

Najee Goode:
Okay, Game On. Just Game On is the app?

Gary Payton:
Yep. Game On.

Dawn Lupul:
Game On for GP. Veepio for Najee.

Gary Payton:
I got you baby, I got you. I’m in there too. I want to go up there and I like that, I like that brother, I like what you’re doing. I like that. Let’s integrate.

Dawn Lupul:
Najee, if you get a chance to put a helmet on again and some pads this year, we hope to see you out on the field, if not we will definitely find you over at Veepio. Thank you so much for joining us on Unfiltered.

Warren Sapp:
Use that brain brother, use that brain brother. We going to go over there and integrate some stuff. Let’s do that. You got your championship, you good.

Najee Goode:
What happen if Lynch call? What happens if Lynch call?

Warren Sapp:
He ain’t calling. He would’ve already called. He would’ve already called. Trust me, don’t be sitting around here, you know I tell all these kids, “don’t let your timeline become your lifeline”. Damn sure don’t let that phone line become your lifeline brother. Keep on moving, don’t stop, no.

Najee Goode:
Hey, I need a sip of that then, next time.

Warren Sapp:
I always got you. I got you baby, I got you Najee. Anytime.

Dawn Lupul:
Come back and visit, anytime.

Warren Sapp:
Yes, yes, yes.

Dawn Lupul:
I like it when we get the cerebral guest on guys, I mean that was…

Warren Sapp:
Ain’t nothing wrong with exercising our brains a little bit. Yeah. I’m going to get me some fish tonight. That’s how I exercise mine. I’m going to get me some fish tonight.

Dawn Lupul:
I heard you like fishing, or something, I don’t know.

Warren Sapp:
No, no. To eat. I ain’t went fishing. I told you too many Trump flags, [inaudible 00:40:42]and they’re looking for dead voters. I’m like, they say Will Smith daddy and Joe Frazier voted in Philadelphia.

Dawn Lupul:
Oh, no.

Warren Sapp:
I want to know who they voted for.

Dawn Lupul:
Let’s get into some hot takes then, at the moment. Who are you voting for? I’m going to throw these names out but we don’t have to talk about these people because, the hot take thing is really annoying. Basically you have broadcasters just opening their mouths and saying stupid to get more attention, more air time. Steven A is an example. He does that. He called out Russel Westbrook a few days ago, Russel’s wife…

Warren Sapp:
No, no, no, no, no. He’s correct, no he’s correct. They should not be 17 and 28, with the talent that they have over there on that basketball team.

Dawn Lupul:
But then he got personal, and he said he wasn’t a champion because he’s never won a championship. Do you agree with that take? Because you know, we got GP…

Warren Sapp:
He’s not done, he’s not done. He’s not done. He’s not done, but to his point, no, he’s not. He’s not a champion, but you know Russel with the faces, and all that come on. We see it, we see it. Let’s not play crazy. Russel one of them LA kids, he’s wild.

Dawn Lupul:
What do you think GP, is it just too much people just talking about stupid stuff?

Gary Payton:
You know what? Let me just tell you like this Dawn. I hate this social media stuff, because you got people criticizing people that ain’t never been in that situation before. Steven A is my boy and all that, that’s what he’s supposed to do. But the young kid, Russell Westbook is my guy, that’s my young guy, man. I mean he’s been in the situations where he’s been with KD, they were supposed to win a championship, they were one game away from eliminating Golden State. Then all of a sudden they got beaten by 4-3. It happens, man. But this young kid to me has never been on the right basketball team. And I think that… he hasn’t though Warren.

Warren Sapp:
And they were in the finals too, against the Heat and they had the Heat by the throat too.

Gary Payton:
But check this out, I wasn’t never on the right team neither, until I went to the Miami. I got busted, man.

Warren Sapp:
All them years in Seattle, you and Kemp was doing that thing, and it wasn’t right?

Gary Payton:
We couldn’t win it, we couldn’t win it.

Warren Sapp:
No, no, I ain’t saying you couldn’t win it. You just didn’t have enough pieces because you need that one shooter over there that you didn’t have.

Gary Payton:
And now I’m going to explain it too. Now all these other guys who are winning it, look what they’re doing. They’re on the right team because they are building it up to become the right team. Okay?

Warren Sapp:
I got you, I got, I got you. He’s not joining forces, he’s not joining forces. I got you, I got you. But, the situation he was in, he wouldn’t release that ball. He should’ve been a lot more of a triple, double guy back when he was with KD. I got that. And that’s when we young dumb, and full of you know what. So, now its out.

Gary Payton:
He’s not that type of dude. Him and Damian Lillard are not going to sign.

Warren Sapp:
No, no they’re not going to join forces, they not, I know.

Gary Payton:
I’m going to be a free agent and I’m going to over here and play ….

Warren Sapp:
I’m an assassin. I’m an assassin and I’m a hired a mercenary, but I won’t sign up with anybody else. I know what they’re talking about. Them two need together.

Gary Payton:
What they play is, them two play together and don’t have nobody else, and see what happens. You know what I’m saying? I’m on Westbrook’s side, man.

Warren Sapp:
No, no. I love his game. I love his game. What he should’ve did, when Steven A said that was just, I’m going to take a pass. Because I should not be concerned with someone who’s never dribbled a ball. That’s what I would’ve said. But when we got with the back and forth, they shouldn’t be 17 and 28, Lord have mercy, got dog.

Gary Payton:
And then its just like, what KD was doing with Rap before. It’s crazy to me that you get involved with that type of situation. You’re going on, and social media is killing us, Warren. It’s killing us.

Warren Sapp:
Hey, GP, don’t let your timeline become your lifeline. How in the hell is Kevin Durant at a 170 pounds threatening anybody? Go on and take that fight. Go on and take that fight, that’s what I’m telling you! Go on and take that fight.

Dawn Lupul:
I’m in. That wouldn’t end up well. I do think both of you can appreciate what Russell ended up saying and I love this when Russell came back. He said, “I was a champion once I made it to the NBA. I grew up in the streets. I’m a champion”. I like that.

Gary Payton:
All he had to say and that was a good quote by him. I was going to mention that too. What I say now Warren, when people come to me and they want to start to heckle me, and which they can’t heckle me, i do like this, “Man, I won when I walked in the door”. You know what I’m saying?

Warren Sapp:
Hey, winning and a champion is two definitely different things. It’s levels to this shit. And if he don’t understand there’s levels too this shit, then okay I got you. Then ride it on out, triple, double to death and win 30 games. I’m with it. Go ahead.

Gary Payton:
Well, you know what Warren, some of these dudes are going to have to do that. We got to…

Warren Sapp:
Oh, no, no! Some of them are going to have to do it. I understand that. Elgin Baylor! Elgin Baylor. Changed the game. Elgin Baylor changed the game, took it above the rim, and did all of that and never won a championship. I got it.

Gary Payton:
And them three I just mentioned never won a championship.

Warren Sapp:
I got it, I know.

Gary Payton:
But they were great basketball players. It just doesn’t happen at times, sometimes.

Warren Sapp:
But I’ve never heard one of those guys say that they were a champion soon as they walked through a door.

Dawn Lupul:
I like that though. It’s like successful though.

Gary Payton:
Well, I’ll say a winner.

Warren Sapp:
Winner! Winner! Winner! Winner! Winner! Winner! Winner! I won! I’m a winner! No doubt. Boy, I won when I put my mama in retirement. That’s what this is about.

Gary Payton:
My mama went in retirement in 1990, when I got drafted. Never worked again a day in her life.

Warren Sapp:
My win was in ’95 and I called her that day and she said, “boy I need me some more fish, I want to get me an aquarium again.” I love when my mama feed the fish. Feed the fish!

Dawn Lupul:
GP was it a big relief for you when you won your championship? Because that was right at the end and then you could retire a champion. Would it have been different if you hadn’t won that year?

Gary Payton:
You know what Dawn? I really didn’t think about that, because you know what happened was…

Warren Sapp:
But you wouldn’t want to do it without it. You wouldn’t want to do it without it.

Gary Payton:
I wouldn’t want to do it without it, but I had got caught up into thinking about that same crap about how you ain’t a hall of famer unless you win a championship.

Warren Sapp:
No, that’s wrong, that’s wrong.

Gary Payton:
That’s what I’m saying. My daddy sat me down and said, “look here, boy, don’t you listen to nobody else. You my son. I raised you up. You a hall of famer in my life, you a hall of famer in these streets out here in Oakland. You a hall of famer to these dudes growing up. They look up to you”. And when I heard him say that, I said, “man I don’t care about no championship, man. I done made it out of the streets of Oakland and been where I’m at, right now…

Warren Sapp:
And that’s when it come! And That’s when it come. And that’s when it come.

Gary Payton:
And I did like this, I said, “If it happen, it happen. If it don’t, it don’t. So what”. And then all of a sudden, it just so happened Dawn, I won a championship. And then you know what? I could’ve quit. But Pat Riley came right back to me and said, “man you my guy. I want you to come back one more year. Let’s try to defend this thing and do something else”. And I came back the following year.

Warren Sapp:
Run it. Run it back!

Gary Payton:
And I didn’t want to play basketball no more. I wanted to do other stuff. But then I came back for the simple fact is, a guy like Pat Riley asked me, I still had love for the game, we had a good team, we were cool, everybody was returning and I said, “man, I’m still having fun”. And that was the way it was, and that’s what I did. I said, “I don’t care about, really, no championship, really,” but it does put good in other people’s mind. He’s not really this person.

Warren Sapp:
It closes the mouth of them damn critics that we talking about that talk that bullshit. That’s what you want.

Gary Payton:
That’s the only thing it does, it shuts everybody up.

Warren Sapp:
With mouths like yours and mine, you don’t want no bullshit on that other side, because we’re coming at you.

Gary Payton:
You know I’m coming at their dome and you are too, I’m going to come at their head.

Warren Sapp:
I’m coming at that jugular. I want to end it.

Dawn Lupul:
You guys, you did your thing. GP, 17 seasons and Warren you had 13. Warren I want to touch on something [crosstalk 00:49:36]

Warren Sapp:
That’s three decades. That’s three decades.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah, that’s like your whole life. I want to touch on something that you briefly mentioned on last week, because this kind of came out and then sort of went away very quickly. But the NFL expanding to 17 games instead of 16, so, who’s the winner and loser in this scenario? I know what you’re going to say, it’s the players who are losing.

Warren Sapp:
You already know it’s the players have lost. They traded everything under the book to smoke weed. They didn’t get lifetime insurance, they didn’t get nothing. Come on man. And now you got a whole other week, you didn’t get no added roster, you didn’t get no more guys on the field. You didn’t get no guys to actually finish that shit because a lot of teams, there’s only 12 going to the play offs, six and six. That’s 32 teams. They’re going to be 20 of them lining up on week 17, dead, and the U-Haul already packed up. So what do you do? That’s going to be some ugly ass football. That’s some ugly ass football.

Dawn Lupul:
How did you guys feel about the end of the season? I mean, what was your body like, Warren, after 16 games? Were you, like, were you done?

Warren Sapp:
What’s my record? What’s my record? If I’m 7 and 9, the U-Haul’s packed and I’m like, what the hell is this about? If I’m 10 and 6, if I’m 10 and 5 and you know, 10 and 6 now because its week 17. I got another one. Shit. Does it mean anything? Now, because you know normally they put the divisional games at the end. I know Tampa played Indianapolis, so it’s not a divisional game. So maybe its just a throw away game that they’re doing. But, if it’s a divisional game? And…shit. You can win or loose a division in week 17? Oh my God.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah, exactly.

Warren Sapp:
You talking about a marathon. The marathon just went to 30.2 miles. Damn 26. 30.2.

Dawn Lupul:
That season, GP, where you played 82 games. How did you feel physically after that?

Gary Payton:
Well, you know what Dawn? 82 games wasn’t really nothing to me.

Warren Sapp:
What’s his record? Is he going to the play offs? Do he think he’s going deep? When you think you got a shot at a championship, everything …let’s go. Let’s go!

Gary Payton:
I’m good, I was good with it, because the simple fact is, in pre-season, we played pre-season but we only played like, a quarter. And then it was over with. Then when it got to play off time, when you go through four rounds of basketball. You got through first round, second round, third round and then you’re in the championship. Then you can start taking a toll. But, me I was always built to play almost 120 games. That was what I was built for. I was built to play 120 games. I played 40 something minutes a night. I knew how to get my rest, I knew how to work it the way I needed to work it, I knew how to [inaudible 00:52:27] practice. Some days I got to take off from practice. I wasn’t spending my time taking off games. Because that’s when people are coming to see me, they coming to see Gary Payton and my job was [inaudible 00:52:39]

Warren Sapp:
We came to see the glove! We came to see the glove.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, they came to see me. So I’m like, I’m going to give it everything I got. And I’m going to give it to you the right way. I’m going to give you this game that I got and I’m going to win as much games as I can, because I want to play the lower seed so I can breeze through first and second round. Because we done beat them so many. So we can breeze through that round. Win 4-1, win 4-blank, you know? Win 4-2. Then we’ll be waiting for somebody. Don’t go to game sevens and be on those tough ones. I want to play the tough guys at the end, you know what I’m saying? So then we have that, then I’m ready. When I go to championship, I’m like, “Shoot, we two and two right now. Only got three more games. Three more games, baby. Three more games, really two if we win two, you know what I’m saying? So that’s where my mentality was. To just go ahead, don’t matter what the game was.

Gary Payton:
But, Warren and them was different. They’re beating themselves down, every week. Football is crash, crash, crash. Us? We’re running up and down, we really don’t be hitting each other like that, you know? We might get down sometime, but it ain’t like what they’re doing. Warren and them is hitting each other helmets, like two cars running into each other at full capacity. That’s a lot! You know, that’s a lot on somebody’s body. Every week. And then you go to practice and then you be a light one and then sometimes the coaches want to go hard. So I’m getting it. Their sport is a little more rougher than ours. It takes more of a toll on their body. It might break them down, most likely, it will, because you see how much injuries is going on in football now? They’re tearing up every time.

Gary Payton:
So, I just think man, they got to think about the guys’ body, especially how these football players are killing themselves and everything is going towards the longevity of what’s been happening in their football career and what makes it happen in their head. So, I just think they need to think about it. Think about it. Let’s think about these people, and their bodies and their mind. We want these guys to be around and see their kids go do soccer. Warren is in good health and good spirits now. He can go see his daughter play soccer, he can go see his friend’s daughter when they invite him to come see water polo, or whatever. You want to do that. You don’t want him to be acting crazy. Because I’ve seen Tony Dorsett, a while back and it really hurts me to see a guy that I seen like that. It hurts.

Warren Sapp:
Scary. Scary.

Gary Payton:
It hurts me man, to see that he is going through that because of football. And I was at the golf tournament with him, and I wanted to cry, you know what I’m saying? I was sitting there with him and I’m trying to talk to him and he really can’t focus in on what I’m doing, because he’s messed up. And I just hate that. I just hate all of that to a fullest. And I want to correct that, I want to change that and make stuff different for every athlete, who can’t. Because we’re all athletes and we all love each other. We all respect each other’s craft and everything, so we need to help each other.

Dawn Lupul:
I love that. No load management on this show. Out there like hall of famers each and every week. And our hall of famer, Mr. Warren Sapp, Mr. Gary Payton, our hall of famer had his turn last week. So we are going to dive right into 99 seconds after those beautiful words from Gary, yes, health for everyone. Warren, what’s on that mind this week?

Warren Sapp:
You know what? A lot is on this mind because the big fellow has been going, we’ve gone from the winter now on over to spring. March Madness has become what we needed it to become. Madness! I mean I told you this tournament would be what we needed it to be all the way into a championship game, but me and Dawn bet out money, and Dawn, you got to pay up. Or I’ll pay yours. Don’t worry! I got you, I got you, I got you. I’ll pay yours. We got good money out of Gary from the Laker thing. And then I look around… Joe Biden’s first 100 days, we’ve gone over a hundred million vaccinations. That’s what I really want to see, because it is almost tailgating season, y’all. We’re going to go through spring football, we’re going to go through summer. We’re going to put them in the training camp and then basketball is going to be the hell out of the way, I ain’t going to have nothing to worry about after they get the championship in June. And then we’re going to get to August, so we got to get vaccinated. Come on!

Warren Sapp:
Everybody out there, swing on by. It doesn’t take long. Stick that left arm out, I stuck my right arm out. Get your vaccination, because let’s turn America back into the partying place that we know it can be, and we know it should be. Because, boy when the summer gets hot, the clothes come off and the party begin! And fat boy wants some of that! Because I had a horrible 2020! Dammit, I want some fun back! So get your damn shot and let’s get on with it baby! It’s time to go! It ain’t over, let’s kill it. Let’s kill the global pandemic, get your shot and let’s get out.

Dawn Lupul:
Your public service announcement from Mr. Warren Sapp.

Warren Sapp:
Hell yeah! It’s time to go! Let’s go! Let’s get Dawn, let’s get Dawn. Dawn needs a tan. I got South Florida waiting on her! She needs a tan. That’s what I’m telling you. They talking about a Brazilian variant, a UK variant, dammit go get your shot!

Dawn Lupul:
Yes. Let’s end this thing. Whatever it takes, let’s end this thing. And on that note, we are going to end this show. We want to thank, again, Mr. Najee Goode, for joining us, for bringing up the brain power on this show. Not that you guys don’t elevate it every week but…

Warren Sapp:
We try.

Dawn Lupul:
You’re my guys. Mr. Gary Payton, Mr. Warren Sapp. My name is Dawn Lupul. This is, Unfiltered brought to you by Bet US, America’s favorite sport book. Oh, we know what happens: you bet, you win, your ass gets paid. Warren’s covering my 100 on Gonzaga!

Warren Sapp:
I got you, baby. I got you. I’ll send Gary the money. I will send it now, fast and I would send yours after I said I was going to pay it. So, now we all even.

Dawn Lupul:
We’ll make some more bets next week. You take care, we’ll see you guys next week.

Gary Payton:
All right.

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