Pac-12 Success, Deshaun Watson, Lakers Chances MINUS LeBron + TJ Ford Interview | BetUS Unfiltered

March 25, 2021

Welcome to BetUS Unfiltered Season 2, Episode 5, your March Madness special after the opening week’s Bracket Busters! Get the insight on the Pac-12 domination, Deshaun Watson’s not-so-sweet 16 troubles, Lebron James injury woes and what it means for the L.A Lakers and all you need in sports and betting with guest T.J. Ford.

In today’s show:
00:00​ – 11:55​ NCAA Parity Party: Success of Pac-12; Which team can win it all?
11:56​ – 17:07​ Deshaun Watson 16 lawsuits: Will QB be in Texans uniform to start the season?
17:08​ – 21:38​ NBA Injuries: LeBron James’ injury upsets Lakers’ chances
21:38​ – 47:37​ T.J. Ford: The Unfiltered panel interview T.J. Ford
50:40​ – 52:32​ 99 Seconds: Warren Sapp gives his point of view on gun control

Audio Podcast

PODCAST TRANSCRIPTION

Dawn Lupul:
Welcome to Unfiltered, brought to you by BetUS, America’s favorite sportsbook, because when you bet, then you win, and your ass gets paid, your sweet ass gets paid.

Gary Payton:
There it is. [crosstalk 00:00:25]

Warren Sapp:
Yeah, that’s sweet.

Dawn Lupul:
Sweet ass.

Warren Sapp:
Sweet.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s a delicious day to be alive, and I am surrounded by all of the Hall of Famers that you can take in one show, Mr. Warren Sapp, looking good today-

Warren Sapp:
Thank you.

Dawn Lupul:
Soccer dad, proud soccer dad. Mr. Gary Payton, also looking fine, and he is a proud father. Gary, let’s just start, we’ll just tease this a little bit right now, Gary Payton II is stealing a lot of headlines lately, named the Defensive Player of the Year for the G League, that has to make you one proud papa.

Gary Payton:
You know what, Dawn, that dude makes me proud. He followed in my footsteps, I like it. Now, all he got to do is take it to the big show and do what he has to do. I think they’re doing to bring him up in the next week or two and see what happens. You know, getting prepared for the playoffs, I think teams now are just trying to build up for the playoffs. They want to bring players in right with the playoffs, and he’s a good guy who can guard like a Kyrie Irving or a Harden for a little bit. Get him six fouls and slow him down and then let all other, the big time players come in and do what they have to do. He’s led the G league three years in a row in steals. And he’s just a natural athletic person, you know what I’m saying. I don’t know where I got him from, I don’t know whether it was the mailman or something but [crosstalk 00:01:55].

Warren Sapp:
Hey. Horses don’t make sheep, baby, I promise you. I promise you. That boy got it all from you, boy. I’m telling you, don’t talk that crazy [crosstalk 00:02:04] I’m telling you, horses do not make sheep.

Gary Payton:
I hear you, Warren. But he a good kid though, man. He a real good kid, man. He could play that game. I love it. I like watching him play because very athletic. You know, he went to Oregon State after me which was a big task to do, to go to your father’s, how big he is in that school and what he turned out to be, to go behind him and do the same thing and be very successful. And I love it, I’m very proud of him, and I hope he keeps on building and building and getting better.

Dawn Lupul:
I know where he can go, he can just stay right with the course of G League. He’s playing for the Raptors G League Team, so he may [crosstalk 00:02:46] as well just head up to the Raptors. We need him, we’re spiraling. It’s not looking pretty, but I don’t want to start the show on that note because it is March Madness time. What a week. Have you ever seen [crosstalk 00:02:58]?

Warren Sapp:
Bring on my madness. I told you, I told you.

Dawn Lupul:
I know.

Warren Sapp:
I told you, just open the gate, and we will see some basketball that we will love. My god.

Dawn Lupul:
It is crazy. 2020, 2021 just keeps giving things that you don’t expect. The success of the Pac-12, unbelievable …

Gary Payton:
Boom, boom.

Dawn Lupul:
[crosstalk 00:03:18] … as they have four teams, four out of 16. that’s 25% and I’m not good at math, you know that. Going on to the Sweet 16, whereas we have the big 10 has one, Michigan. That’s probably not very good. No. The ACC has two and one of them, Syracuse, so what is going on [inaudible 00:03:40] is reigning supreme in March Madness. Gary, it’s been crazy.

Gary Payton:
It has, Dawn. It’s been a lot of upsets. You know a lot of teams that we didn’t expect to be there, specially nobody expecting my Beavers to be there. Nobody expected Syracuse to be there, but Jim Boeheim’s son then came [crosstalk 00:04:01] got their lights out of the basketball, and my Beavers are playing defense. They [inaudible 00:04:09] then they get into a zone and they start making shots, anything can happen, buddy. So this has been a great basketball like Warren was saying. We opened up the gates, and it’s been floods everywhere. And this weekend is going to be even better, man. And I’m going to wait and see because I’m going to see upsets in here too, I think. I think it’s going to be some upsets going on in here. We still go three number ones left, Warren. We still got three number ones left, baby. I got the over. [crosstalk 00:04:43]

Warren Sapp:
We both got the over. But I don’t think it’s going to come home.

Gary Payton:
You said, baby wasn’t going to be there and I said, Illinois was going to be there. You said [crosstalk 00:04:53].

Warren Sapp:
We swapped.

Gary Payton:
We swapped.

Warren Sapp:
Yeah, Gary, listen, I knew that this March Madness was going to give us some double madness. I mean you’re talking about every seat won in the first round except for 16. That’s insane, dog. When you’re talking about every seat in the four days of basketball, dog, it was so hyped up. And then it’s good to see that 2-3 zone that Jim Boeheim made so infamous and famous. That thing still work and boy, his team mates held up Boeheim’s son in that first half. And boy, he come out in that second half and boy, was he dropping that thing so serious, boy. Ain’t nothing like basketball like that. And kids do the … Young men, I’ll put it this way.

Warren Sapp:
Young men, I call them kids because I’m almost 50 at this point, but young men do the damndest things. I mean I was looking at the one game, my god, that Norfolk or somebody was up by eight with a minute and then lost by six. [crosstalk 00:05:49] I’m like what in the hell were you all doing. All they had to do is slow that damn thing down, man. The clock is your friend. Holy shit. But these kids have no conscience, they pull up from anywhere, shoot it deep, shoot it wide, shoot it low, shoot it all day long, I love it. There’s nothing better than watching these young men just go out and just play this game. I can’t wait till this weekend.

Dawn Lupul:
I can’t wait either. I mean the Sweet 16 is going to be sweet starting on Saturday of course. You can head to BetUS and jump in on the action. It’s always bet responsibility, of course.

Warren Sapp:
What’s the numbers on Syracuse right now?

Gary Payton:
You know I got to go with my school. You know I got to win it. You know what I’m saying. But the next best [inaudible 00:06:32] team that I really think, it’s a debate out of USC and Oregon. Both of them teams are very talented and very good. The USC has the two brothers which are playing very well. And one of them is slated to be a top draft pick next year, this year, I mean and I think that Oregon team is now clicking. The Oregon team is now very clicky. They’re on all cylinders. Both of them teams are very athletic. I think three of us will win. I guarantee you, I think three of us will win in the Sweet 16 this weekend.

Gary Payton:
I don’t know what’s going to lead eight, that would be great but you know what, we have to just eliminate one because Oregon plays USC and they play each other and they’re going to eliminate each other. One of them is going to eliminate each other, so that’s going to be a big thing. And I think Oregon State is going to win. I think they got a shot and beat Loyola Chicago. I think they are going to play the same where they are and shoot it better than them. And UCLA, that’s a tricky one too. You know they’re going against Michigan and that’s going to be … [crosstalk 00:07:39]

Warren Sapp:
No, they got Alabama.

Gary Payton:
They got alabama? [crosstalk 00:07:41]

Dawn Lupul:
Alabama, yeah.

Warren Sapp:
They got Bama, and Bama plays them deep, boy. God almighty, them boys plays them deep down there. So that’s the one that’s the toughest, that’s the toughest one. Because that’s 11-2, yeah, that’s the toughest one.

Gary Payton:
That’s a tough one but UCLA playing well though, Warren. They playing the same way [crosstalk 00:07:58] Alabama, they’re playing deep. So when they’re playing deep and then we say that guard play, Warren, they got that [crosstalk 00:08:04].

Warren Sapp:
But it’s one more game they’re playing from that play here, so they got one more … [crosstalk 00:08:10] It might be a little tight. I watched it, that’s the toughest one, but I agree with you with Oregon and UST. Out of them two, it’s your school because your school got that one if they can just get Miss Jean out their minds, just play the game.

Dawn Lupul:
Let’s talk about Miss Jean. [crosstalk 00:08:26] Yeah, Loyola.

Warren Sapp:
Sister Jean. [crosstalk 00:08:30]

Dawn Lupul:
Sister Jean, Loyola Chicago defeating Illinois …

Warren Sapp:
Illinois Gonzaga [crosstalk 00:08:34] Illinois is not there?

Gary Payton:
No.

Dawn Lupul:
I don’t remember that. [crosstalk 00:08:38]

Warren Sapp:
Come on, I can’t get no money from you all.

Dawn Lupul:
Can’t get blood from a stone.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:08:41] I owe you money. [crosstalk 00:08:46] On that … [crosstalk 00:08:47]

Warren Sapp:
I like that. I was talking about the next hundred, I got that secure.

Dawn Lupul:
That’s who Oregon State, Gary, actually has to play. They’re playing Sister Jean. She’s putting the hex on everybody. That’s not going to work out too well.

Gary Payton:
We just got to get it out our minds and just go in there and play. The coaches know what they have to do, they have to look at film and watch it, because I told you, Loyola Chicago plays their offense. They run it to a tee. They play like the old school where we used to play it with Ralph Miller when we backdoor, we cut … [crosstalk 00:09:19]

Warren Sapp:
Pick, pick, pick.

Gary Payton:
Pick and that big man, once he gets the ball, he reminds me of the Joker of Denver. He throws and passes. Did you see the play, Warren, when he was going out of bounds? I didn’t even seen the guy in the middle and he tipped the ball to him. [crosstalk 00:09:36]

Warren Sapp:
Tipped it right to him.

Gary Payton:
What, and that is basketball [crosstalk 00:09:41] skills and body swap weirdness that you can’t teach in a big [crosstalk 00:09:47].

Warren Sapp:
Instincts.

Gary Payton:
And this guy, he’s very good.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:09:50] He’s a natural. No, that alley oop that he got and put that thing up there, that make … Boy, there ain’t a lot of young men that can make that play.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:09:57] Absolutely.

Warren Sapp:
That boy sweet. He sweet. [crosstalk 00:10:00] But I’m going with Oregon State, I’m going with the Beavers, baby. Let them eat that wood, baby, chop wood.

Gary Payton:
Boom, boom.

Dawn Lupul:
We all are. Ethan Thompson is absolutely studding up for the Beavers, so we will go with them and see if that works out. But it’s kind of looking like Gonzaga is getting tougher and tougher to beat as we get to the end of it. But I’m excited [crosstalk 00:10:21].

Warren Sapp:
They whooped every top team that’s still left.

Dawn Lupul:
I know.

Gary Payton:
They told that but you know, Warren, they play everybody in three seasons.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:10:29] I know. It beat the hell out of them.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:10:31] They didn’t play was Baylor because of the [crosstalk 00:10:34] COVID protocol. And that would have been a good game to watch but I’m just saying that’s what you do with the program, you’ve got to play everybody [crosstalk 00:10:44].

Warren Sapp:
Go measure yourself.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:10:46]

Warren Sapp:
Go measure yourself early, build your team up and then go run for championship.

Dawn Lupul:
Okay.

Gary Payton:
Remember, Warren. Our boys in State was doing it in football, when everybody wouldn’t ever put them in a bowl and then rank them and then he start going out and playing [crosstalk 00:11:01].

Warren Sapp:
Go check them.

Gary Payton:
Start busting them, that’s how you got to play. You got to play sports like that. [crosstalk 00:11:07]

Warren Sapp:
But they’ve got to accept that invitation to get bust up. Knowing for sometime, we have a conference schedule, we don’t need anything outside the conference except the [inaudible 00:11:17] and the sisters of the blind. What?

Dawn Lupul:
I love it. Get involved, head to BetUS, America’s favorite sportsbook, where you could find odds on this, and yeah, upsets everywhere. So play the Dogs. The Dogs have actually been doing extremely well both straight up and against the spread so check that out. We’re going to sashay … [crosstalk 00:11:39]

Warren Sapp:
The under, take the under in college basketball.

Dawn Lupul:
Take the under because … [crosstalk 00:11:41]

Warren Sapp:
Anything around 140, they’re not scoring 70 and 70 points in these basketball games. No, sir.

Dawn Lupul:
No, because defense is our favorite word on this show. Defense.

Warren Sapp:
Yes, you better know it.

Dawn Lupul:
Defense. It’s all about the defense.

Gary Payton:
It is.

Dawn Lupul:
Don’t fool around. Speaking of defense, somebody who really needs to have good lawyers in his corner right now, one Deshaun Watson. I’m sure everyone’s heard the news. Suddenly there is a pile on of masseuses coming out from all over the place saying that he has [crosstalk 00:12:12]. It’s like every day you check, it goes up we could have like a [crosstalk 00:12:17] lottery on how many.

Warren Sapp:
It’s 16, it’s more than.

Gary Payton:
16.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s crazy. [crosstalk 00:12:21]

Gary Payton:
Go change his number to number 16, he better not …

Warren Sapp:
Stop it.

Dawn Lupul:
So what do we do about this? You guys know your reputation means so much and here’s Deshaun, he was always vaunted as being a great guy and he’s going through now this contract stuff with Houston. He wanted out, he wasn’t into discussing things with the team. All the other teams were clamoring to get him and now, this comes out. Warren, what is left of his reputation? Even if he’s found innocent, it’s kind of tough to climb out of this.

Warren Sapp:
I’m not worried about reputation. I’m not worried about social media, or anything like that. I think the biggest thing for this young man is $150 million contract they signed because once you ask the team for it, no trading calls, and I don’t know this personally but I’m just thinking this out as an ex-NFL player. If you give up a no trade clause to an NFL player, there’s something we have to get back that we want. And I’m afraid that it was a poisoned pill for that $150 million, and they’re going after it right now. I’m talking about this man’s livelihood is going up right now because this is ugly. If there’s nothing else, there’s a pattern here. If there’s nothing else, there’s a pattern here and a long pattern. They’ve got a lot of footprints and fingerprints on it and a whole lot of DNA as I’m looking at it and reading. So I don’t want no part of this. I wish I’m the best but boy, I hope that no trade clause didn’t come with a poison pill with 150 mil because it looks like they’re going to ring that bell.

Dawn Lupul:
Gary, you were right beside Kobe Bryant back in the day. Rest his soul. When he went through, all he went through having to go back and forth to court of course, with the charges against him. What did that do to the team? What was that like?

Gary Payton:
You know I was just coming in, Dawn. Me and Karl Malone, we were looking forward to playing with them two young guys, and we signed early and we were all happy. Everybody was doing everything, and then the news broke out. It really tore us apart because we wanted him to be there. Then he didn’t come and show up for training camp and things were getting a little bit out of hand at this time because he’s going to court. And then we had meetings and I stepped up and said I was going to be the big brother. I didn’t want anybody else, we agreed don’t have nobody else communicate with him in the organization except myself and me to go and try to get him into the thing. I got him to start relaxing, I got him to start getting out a little bit.

Gary Payton:
We started doing a lot of things together, and it was marvelous. He started coming back. We knew that the courts were going to keep him in the court. They had him going back and forth. He wouldn’t have practice. He could make it to the games on time, he would have to fly in later. We were fine with that. It was just that what we had to do was get his mental state out of them to play. That’s hard to do with a kid that’s only 25 years old. And he was like 24, 25, to think that I’m going to spend the rest of my life in jail and over this. And I’m going to lose my family and I’m going to do this. That’s hard, that’s very hard to be beat sometimes but you have to keep your mind focused and stay. Like Warren said, you can’t go and look at the Instagram, you can’t do that. No reading, none of that crap.

Gary Payton:
You got to get with somebody who’s going to be your friend and be real close to him as family members and friends, that’s really your friends. And stay with your mind focused. It’s unfortunate that it’s going like Bill Cosby now. Once one comes out, everybody comes out and that’s crazy. I just don’t get it that you hold that long and then come out right now but that’s just the way this life is. And we got to figure that we hope he didn’t do it and hope that it come out to the best because I don’t wish anything on it a person like that. I really don’t because that’s not good for this kid, especially a young star who’s coming up and had a bright future, so we just hope [crosstalk 00:16:35].

Warren Sapp:
And $150 million contract with it.

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:16:38] They don’t give them away.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, we just hope especially in football.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:16:45] Let’s pray for him.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, we’re going to pray for him … [crosstalk 00:16:47]

Warren Sapp:
You’re going to need a lot of prayer in this thing, boy. A lot of prayer because I see a pattern and that’s not good. That’s not good at all.

Dawn Lupul:
Hopefully, the truth will come out. And if these allegations do prove to be true that he gets the help that he needs. And if it doesn’t that he can clear his name somehow, but we’ll watch the stories that continues to develop a lot going forward. And Gary, we’re just talking about the Lakers, so may as well move into that little story.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:17:11] Yeah, what about them Lakers.

Dawn Lupul:
There’s a lot of going on there. So AD was supposed to be back after the All Star Game. He’s not back for at least another three weeks, so that has kind of stretched into territory we didn’t expect. And now with LeBron James going down with a high ankle sprain, and those are things aren’t easy to heal from, especially when you’re a basketball player, even tougher. I was looking at the odds on BetUS.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:17:36] No, you’re 38. What you mean, dog, when you’re 38, that’s what you mean.

Dawn Lupul:
You’re O-L-D.

Warren Sapp:
Yeah, the O-L-D is undefeated like the internet.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s undefeated. To win the … [crosstalk 00:17:45]

Gary Payton:
I think that the Lakers with that organization, Jeanie Buss, they’re going to go and get somebody. They’re going to go sign someone to do what it has to do and then I think the Schroders, the Harrells, they have to step up now. The Caldwell-Popes, the Popes they’re trying to make some moves right now because of this. Their two superstars are out. That’s basketball, that’s sports, it happens. So now, you have to withstand the fire that’s going to come at you and the darts that going to come at you and bring you down until them two guys get back.

Gary Payton:
That high ankle sprain with LeBron is very difficult to get rid of, especially as you’ve seen it when Guap was trying to do it with the 49ers, and he was just sitting back there throwing and trying to push off and it was all bang. But you pounding and pounding and pounding, that’s going to be even worse. So we’re going to have to rest him, I say about a month and they’ve got to withstand it. I think it’s going to have to be about a month for him to even come back. And then with AD, he’s been hurt so many times, so much that you don’t want to rush him back because he’s tender like that. And I’m saying tender because like being [inaudible 00:19:06], I’ve been saying, you don’t want a guy who’s injury prone to come back [crosstalk 00:19:11] what he wants to …

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:19:13] He tender.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:19:15] … and be it. You see what the Brooklyn is doing with KD. They’re not bringing him back because they want to go at the end, and I think nowadays in these sports, everybody’s looking at playoff time. They don’t care where they’re seated, they don’t care where they at because they think they can go into other places and beat people. Specially with our fans, you could go in the other arenas and beat teams and get out of that. So I think they’re just going to rest him and [crosstalk 00:19:40].

Warren Sapp:
And ain’t no night life on the road no more.

Gary Payton:
You can’t go out.

Warren Sapp:
Ain’t no night life on the road no more. Ain’t no more Magic City in Atlanta no more, baby. Ain’t no more Onyx on Thursday night. Ain’t no more of that, baby.

Gary Payton:
Did you see that, Warren, with the VC team, the VCU team. The little boys, kids, students, and the players go out, fool around and get a protocol and they’ve got to forfeit. They’re done. So the players, they’re not risking that now and you’re right, Warren. They’re going to get a lot of rest, man. When they go in their hotels, it’s a bubble. They got security standing there, you can’t go out. If you even go out, you’re going to get a test and they … [crosstalk 00:20:23]

Warren Sapp:
It’s over.

Gary Payton:
… find out where you was and who yous around … [crosstalk 00:20:25]

Warren Sapp:
Who you around and they out, too. And they out, too.

Gary Payton:
You’re done, so I don’t think they’re going to jeopardize that.

Dawn Lupul:
Stay away from the barber, that’s all you have to do. [crosstalk 00:20:34] In terms of Lakers, coming up in the next month, they have to play some teams like the 76ers, the Bucks, the Clippers, the Heat, the Nets, they got the Celtics, they got the Jazz, and they got the [crosstalk 00:20:47].

Warren Sapp:
No, they got a full slate that’s coming [crosstalk 00:20:49] at them. It’s coming at them, baby.

Gary Payton:
All them teams is top teams and the Heat is paying better, Milwaukee playing better.

Dawn Lupul:
Jazz.

Gary Payton:
I don’t know about Boston. They’re reeling al little bit, but the rest of the teams … [crosstalk 00:21:02]

Warren Sapp:
They got talent though. They can come to life.

Gary Payton:
And if [crosstalk 00:21:05].

Dawn Lupul:
NBA.

Gary Payton:
… going to trade now too though, Warren. Boston trying to trade everybody. They think they need [crosstalk 00:21:11].

Warren Sapp:
There’s a fire sale going on right now.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, they’re trying to trade everybody.

Dawn Lupul:
There’s a couple of teams.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:21:18] … walk out of there, I’m like whoa, so yeah, they gave them all that money and now they want to get him up out of there because they say it ain’t working so we’ll see.

Warren Sapp:
I guess Micheal Jordan did make the right call when he got out of Charlotte, didn’t he?

Dawn Lupul:
Don’t be going out Micheal like that. I’m sure he’ll admit it too. Now joining us on Unfiltered, we have Mr. T.J. Ford and it is his birthday. Happy birthday, T.J., from all of us. So glad that you’re joining us tonight.

Gary Payton:
Bam, bam, my boy.

Dawn Lupul:
T.J. Ford, a stud back in the day, not so long ago right. Led his Willow Ridge High School to a 75-1 win loss record. I think that’s pretty good. What happened to the one, why’d you lose one game?

T.J. Ford:
That was the team that the prior year, the sophomore did an investigation against us and caused us to lose 25 game and not make the playoffs my sophomore year. They got three over time and beat us my junior year.

Dawn Lupul:
All right, well. Should’ve been 76. [crosstalk 00:22:22]

Warren Sapp:
So in other words, you all were cheating the year before and they told on you all. Got it.

Dawn Lupul:
Warren, don’t start that. Be nice to our guest.

Warren Sapp:
Hey, I’m reading between the lines for all you people out here who don’t get it, you know what I’m saying.

Dawn Lupul:
I’ll tell you want, from there, he went on to Texas with the Longhorns. He was a consensus Big 12 Freshman of the Year. He was named to the First Team All-American Squad. He was a Naismith College Player of the Year, John Wooden Awards he won, was named Player of the Year by Sports Illustrated, the Sporting News, ESPN.com, and CBS SportsLine. Drafted number eight by the Milwaukee Bucks, played for my Toronto Raptors at one point. Super excited about that. So T.J., thank you so much for joining us. It is great to see you, man.

T.J. Ford:
Thank you of the introduction and being a part of this great group of guys on my birthday, not a better a [inaudible 00:23:13] to share it with so thank you all for having me.

Gary Payton:
No problem.

Dawn Lupul:
Let’s get right into it because we’ll talk a little March Madness, and I want to talk about some of the work that you do with kids. Of course, you’ve got your T.J. Ford Foundation which is doing excellent work but the Texas Longhorns, what happened? Abilene Christian beat them. Abilene Christian just the division basketball program for the first time in 2013, they went on to defeat 53 to 52, what happened?

T.J. Ford:
Man, I mean when you look at that game, they was outplayed form the beginning. Start of the game far as energy, far as tempo, far as passion, far as aggression and I think that we need watch the entire game when you look at opponents that you haven’t heard of before. You want to connect but stay in that type of momentum and effort, and they was able to do it for 40 minutes. It’s kind of shocking for all of us because Texas was playing so well throughout the season under all the protocols and things they have to deal with through the season. But it didn’t carry out from winning the Big Four Tournaments, so that’s kind of weird. I think we’re all feeling weird right now. How did that happen?

Dawn Lupul:
It is weird. There’s a lot of parody going on and obviously, there’s one extremely happy person on the set today, Gary, as his team, Oregon State, continues to cruise through. Beavers, what’s up with that, Gary?

Gary Payton:
You know what, Dawn, I went to go see him in the Pac-12 Tournament and they were rolling. Once they beat UCLA and then went back and beat Oregon the number one seat and then got to Colorado in the championship game, I had seen a different team in this ball club. This is not one of our better teams Tinkle has coached, but the guys on here have a lot of intensity, have a lot of fire. They work hard and they get it done. And right now, you know guys, momentum is a big part of basketball and any sport.

Gary Payton:
When you go into somewhere with momentum and you’re playing the way it is and everybody has a lot of focus and they have a lot of determination and gets together as one, you can beat a lot of good teams and beat mostly everybody, if you think about it. And they’re shooting the ball very well right now. They’re shooting the ball extremely well from the three, they’re playing defense, but they’ve got a tough team like Loyola Chicago Mets. That’s going to be a tough team because they run there all offense and they run it to a tee and they play dep. They disrupt you a lot, and I think that Oregon State had a handful, but I still think my team’s going to win and go to the lead eight.

Warren Sapp:
You got to deal with Sister Jean this week, buddy.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:25:55]

Warren Sapp:
Just don’t say nothing wild about the lady like my man, Willy [Dice 00:26:01] did or Morty Joe. Holy shit, I’m like whoa, you cannot trip that faith of God in a basketball game. You know what this is, dog. I’m like crazy, but Sister Jean and them boys, that big man decided something serious to deal with, Gary but Oregon State [inaudible 00:26:17] be right now, boy. [crosstalk 00:26:19]

Dawn Lupul:
Defense is the name of the game. And T.J., I want to talk a little bit about what happened with your career because unfortunately you had to retire early at the age of 28 after being such a stud in high school and college, getting drafted early on. But it was actually before you even went to college that you were diagnosed with spinal stenosis which is like a narrowing of the spinal column, and you had a couple of really scary incidences where you were laying on the court, and you couldn’t even move and yet you continued to play.

T.J. Ford:
Yeah, I mean going to my high school, I mean it was my senior year after around prom time, we were playing pick up at the school, and my arms and neck would get this tingling feeling like it hit my funny bone. It’s really painful and it went off about two weeks, and I finally told my father and my parents and we had to go start seeing doctors. So soon as I got to Texas, we started seeing specialists, and I was supposed to have surgery that summer. And I wasn’t allowed to play basketball and did all these scary tests and then I remember I was supposed to be at the hospital about 5:30 in the morning. I remember calling Rick Barnes about 12:00-12:30, and I kind of just had a fear of being scared. I was like I don’t really feel like having surgery, I feel like I’m healthy.

T.J. Ford:
And he was like okay then, we don’t have to have it, and I wouldn’t expect him to say that. And I didn’t go the next morning and then in college basketball, I didn’t have any issues at all for two years. And I had had some crazy falls and then unfortunately, once I got into the NBA, a couple incidents happened and being there paralyzed and not being able to move is very scary. But just knowing that I was able to play nine seasons and have the respect from all the guys in the NBA was the most powerful way and the biggest blessing that I will always remember from the NBA is I felt like guys protecting me.

T.J. Ford:
I feel like guys looking after me even though they weren’t my team mates, I felt like guys treated me very well just knowing that condition and actually seeing it whether it was in person or watching it on TV. So I have so much respect for all the guys that I faced because guys, there’s plenty of times they could have took my head off and guys really took care of me while I was out there on the basketball court. As far as me playing with that spinal stenosis and risking being paralyzed the rest of my life, I’m just that dedicated to basketball. I love it that much and I think for me, also from a financial standpoint, I had to do what I had to do for the betterment of my family and my future for the rest of my life. And it wasn’t a situation where I felt like I could have gave back 30-40 million bucks, so I just had to smarten up and …

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:29:03] You better not have to give up 30-40 million bucks.

T.J. Ford:
[crosstalk 00:29:05] I could not give back that 40, I couldn’t do it.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s amazing what you were able to accomplish, absolutely. Warren, you and I, we’re in for a little treat because I believe that T.J. has a story about one Gary Payton. And we may be able to use this against Gary in the future so T.J., what’s that story that you have that you want to share.

T.J. Ford:
So The Glove is somebody I grew up watching. I had the glove, I had the shoes. Me and my posse go buy them, just as long as you can zip up and you can pull it down. You talk trash. My biggest moment was in the finals. He dunked the ball and … MJ face [inaudible 00:29:48] so I remember he was with Miami. I think that was my rookie years. Either Miami or he was with the Lakers. And I think Lakers, you was with the Lakers before Miami, right?

Gary Payton:
Yeah, Lakers, I was with Lakers [crosstalk 00:30:02] in your rookie year.

T.J. Ford:
Lakers. Lakers first. Man, I just remember, man, I was trying to talk to him a little bit, man. He kind of gave me that old school like he was messing with me. So I was like I don’t like no more, man. I was saying what’s up and nye nye, let’s play some ball. I’m like I wasn’t expecting him to talk trash to me. I thought he’s going to show me a little love because I was a little guy, and I was new to the league. I told my brother, I don’t like him no more, he ain’t my favorite player no more.

Dawn Lupul:
But you kept the shoes.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, but see, T.J., he didn’t know that every rookie that came in, I had to get at. You know what I’m saying, I had to get at him, but I watched T.J. so much in college. And you had this kid coming out that was player of the year and all that and he was doing well and he was a small guy. I was like man, I can’t wait to get him in the league because I’m going to tear his little butt up. I didn’t know the story about I was his favorite player but he had heart. It really hurt me when I seen I’m fall that time and got hurt really bad and almost crippled himself. And he know, ever since then, I reached out to him a couple of times and told him that he’s my guy, whatever he needs. I’ve seen him in Houston when we were doing some stuff in Houston. I remember [inaudible 00:31:24] a lot, so he’s the kind of kid that he’s got a lot of heart. And I appreciate you always looking at me and looking up to me and that’s just a big thing to me.

Dawn Lupul:
We’ll get more into your foundation in a moment, T.J. Sorry there, but Warren, I want to bring you in because what is going on with our social media that I know we love and hate so much. The young kids playing in March Madness, it’s getting crazy because now there’s death threats. Poor EJ Liddell getting death threats after his team was knocked out unfortunately. And then there’s racial abuse for Cockburn from Illinois. So Warren, what do we do about this? It’s out of control.

Warren Sapp:
It’s just America right now.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s scary.

Warren Sapp:
I mean we’ve stepped into a real void in a real bad place. And something’s got to happen where somebody wakes up and realize your timeline is not your lifeline. That shit that you’re typing on that computer, in that keyboard is not what’s really going on. So we’ve gotten to a point where I always say it’s likes, views, follows, and comments. And that’s what they’re doing, they’re building a brand, it’s just a hateful brand and [inaudible 00:32:35] out there, but you can filter it. I know the kid wouldn’t really worry about them death threats.

Warren Sapp:
I’m glad he involved the law enforcement like he did because you never know when some nut might try something wild. But just stay with being in good company of your people and hang tight with your people and don’t put yourself in no wild situation, you should be fine. America better wake the hell up though, we got to wake the hell up because we just say anything to anybody about anything and ain’t no damn we. You ain’t no higher status. It’s just some damn kids that was on the field and the damn people that were working with. Ain’t no damn we. We, we, we ain’t French in America. All this damn we we shit. We ain’t we we.

Gary Payton:
I agree with Warren, Dawn because this stuff is crazy. It’s a basketball game, these are kids. They’re trying to play basketball, they’re trying to better their life and go somewhere and you want to threaten him because you out there betting on a game and you lose? You ain’t even going out there playing. That’s the stuff I hate.

Warren Sapp:
No practice. They’re not playing, no practice.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:33:32]

Warren Sapp:
That’s what you work at, that’s with the work.

Gary Payton:
They ain’t get nothing, and they go talk about we lost the game.

Warren Sapp:
We, we, we.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:33:40] Get out of here, man. I wouldn’t even pay attention to that [inaudible 00:33:42]. That’s crazy, man. I wish somebody would run up on me and talk about we. Ain’t we, we who, me, you, ain’t we. I’ll bust you upside your ear. That’s how it goes though with these people. It’s crazy out there, and I think these kids should get off this social media and leave that stuff alone, man. Block them dudes and block them people and go on about your minute. I know social media is a part of life now, but block that crap. You got to stop watching that stuff man, because that’s just retarded.

Dawn Lupul:
T.J., your basketball academy. Obviously, this is something that three of you could be, you’re awesome role models, the kids need that right now. T.J., you’ve gone a step beyond starting your basketball academy years and years ago. And you take young kids and you help them and you help them to the next stage. You want them to go to college to get educated. What can you tell them about social media that will help them going forward?

T.J. Ford:
I mean it’s kind of tricky. I think for me when it comes to the whole social media piece, I really just do what I need to do on it and I get up off of it. I’m not a person on there that really engage and socialize with a bunch of people that I do not know. I think I have a purpose when I use it and how I use it, and I leave it at that. I’m not really looking for validation from anyone. I just think trying to get kids to understand what their purpose is and how you try to use it. And I think it was once something that was cool and fun, and I think it’s shifted over to being more of a business for people.

T.J. Ford:
I think the intent for people is financially, make money using social media whether it’s good or bad. So for me, all I could do with the kids that we have and that we’re mentoring is to have confidence within yourself and believe in yourself. I think the biggest thing is just having the confidence within yourself. And we find a lot of kids just doesn’t have that self confidence and they may be looking for it through other people and through other sources, and I think that’s what social media with this generation, I think a lot of kids are looking for some positive feedback.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:35:47] Looking for 15 seconds of fame on IG, that’s what they’re looking for with their little TikTok videos and all that [crosstalk 00:35:55]. Get the hell out of here. You’re going to let the Chinese empty your email just so you can make a dumb ass 20-second video. Huh?

T.J. Ford:
I got a question for you all. In our time when we play, it was a big thing, if it wasn’t a featured article, you really didn’t want to read it. We were told not to read the newspaper every day. We find that negative. Why now, it’s more the athletes are looking for that negative content? Why are they searching for what people are saying?

Warren Sapp:
It’s not so much negative content, T.J. It’s not so much negative, they build a brand and these people follow, like, comment and they’re usually all good. You know hey, I like that, I like this, bunch of hearts, bunch emoji, bunch of thumbs up, bunch of all good stuff. But when it turns the other way, that’s the part I don’t think these kids are ready to accept that is going to come at you just as many emoji with a bunch of doodoo piles all up and a bunch of puking faces all across. You know, I don’t think they’re ready for this because I don’t think we prepared them in the way we bring them up in the ranks. We hand everybody a trophy. There’s a participation trophy, we’re just here, everybody’s a winner.

Warren Sapp:
We don’t keep score. Bullshit. You lose, you get lost, you third place, you fifth place, you seventh place, you get that ugly ass ribbon and you get trophies. Like when they go and give out awards now. To kids that won, they give them out first and then the next group, [inaudible 00:37:26] and they get trophies. And the kids that won like why they give trophies for? These kids know, they know, we’re just playing this game like they don’t know. So we just need to go back to the old way like when we grew up, buddy, you take your ass whopping. Sometimes, the bat eat you, and sometimes, you eat the bat. You’ve got to accept this. That’s what life is about. Getting knocked down and getting back up and going with a new plan and see if you can go at it again.

Gary Payton:
And again to tell you T.J., you’ve got to understand, in our day, we didn’t have all this Instagram and all that stuff. We just had one little cellphone and we had a beeper, a pager or something like that. You’ve got to understand that. Nowadays, these guys are getting more popular on these likes. When you got six million likes or six million followers, people come and give you endorsements. Remember, we didn’t get endorsements that way. We had our agents going out there, getting us endorsements, getting us money but they make money on this Instagram and these Twitters now, that is it Tweets now that it’s insane. And what Warren is saying, these young kids are not ready for it. They’re not ready for it. You know you might have the Snoop Doggs and the Warren Gs and all of them, they can handle this because they’re older. They can handle all this stuff, and they can come back and talk on this social media. Young kids can’t. They can’t take that. Their feelings [inaudible 00:38:45] man, they’re talking about …

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:38:47] They hate me, they hate me.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, they’re hating on me, they hate me, why is that? And with us, with me, you, and Warren, we’ll be like man, get up off my social media. Man, I’m tired of you, dude. Because I don’t even [crosstalk 00:39:04] T.J. I don’t [crosstalk 00:39:06].

Warren Sapp:
Take it to the grill, let’s grill it up. Let’s get something down, let’s get it.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:39:11] nobody’s business, you know what I’m saying. So it’s like a different world, T.J. You know it. We was in a different era than they were. They’re in this era and this era is off to them. We don’t care about all that. We don’t get on the phone every day, boop boop boop, this where we at, we ain’t doing that, they are, and that’s why they get more popular and more fame doing that. So that’s just the way this IG and all this stuff is going.

Dawn Lupul:
There is some good. I mean social media’s a cesspool, there’s no doubt. But T.J., there’s some good things that happen.

Warren Sapp:
A lot of good things.

Dawn Lupul:
Like the discrepancy between the men’s facilities and the women’s facilities, that ended up being a huge thing. I know your wife is very involved with it. She had her project, Beautiful Me which was providing underprivileged young girls with a really nice prom, getting donations for dresses and everything else. That’s fantastic work. The two of you are such wonderful role models. So what do we do to teach girls that they’re as valuable was the boys when you’re seeing what happened with the women’s side of the tournament so far?

T.J. Ford:
I think that was just great that they was able to put that out there so we can actually see it. And I think that was very embarrassing for the NCA. I couldn’t believe that they would even do such a thing. I think women’s basketball as being on a whole nother level, they’re great, they’re very talented, they need the exposure. And I think the WNBA and the things that they’re providing for these young women and giving them opportunities is great. And I think they should be on the level as any other man, especially when it comes to the tournament time. And I felt that if they had a bubble, I think everything from the men and the women should be identical and should be the same. So that’s unfortunate that they didn’t respect what the women’s game brought to the table and the universities that was in attendance. And I think it should’ve been more a bigger issue than what it really was. They tried to make up for it, but it’s still not … I mean they missed the boat. You can fix it but it’s too late. I think better job.

Warren Sapp:
It’s the NCAA, when have they ever gotten any damn thing right? They get it wrong all the damn time. NCAA is just horrid. They are horrid in their guidelines, they’re horrid in the bullshit rules, they’re horrid in their institutional control shit they talk about. It’s just a bad thing. They just need to disband NCAA. They don’t do anything good for anybody. It wasn’t the weight room that got me pissed. It was the giveaways. You couldn’t get the girls some nice sweats and [inaudible 00:41:39] and shit like everybody else? Come on, man. I know you all aren’t selling as many hotdogs this time around at the NCAA tournament but you got your pockets full, so stop the bullshit. Make sure the ladies are well taken care off, man. Come on, stop it.

Gary Payton:
And it’s like this too though, Warren, it’s great for what Warren is doing for his daughter. By going on and supporting her in soccer and making these guys understand that my kid doesn’t have to be a boy to be very great in a sport. If I’m out there supporting that and we’ve got a high profile athlete, Hall of Famer going out there, doing that T.J., then you can understand it. Like what Kobe was doing. Kobe was turning women’s basketball around. And I hate that he passed away because he was going to get it onto another level. You know what I’m saying?

Gary Payton:
And now we have to understand, these girls, these women I mean, have to do this and say we’re going to have to do the same thing for him. It’s just like WNBA, it’s starting to change now, getting more money because they have to because these women are equal to us and they’re playing sports the way we are and we got to give them the same thing. Nike has to start giving up money, Adidas is going have to start giving up money, all these people have to start giving up money because these women are great athletes. And I respect Warren for him being out there with his daughter to show that soccer is changing. Soccer has evolved, man, I’m telling you. [crosstalk 00:43:05]

Warren Sapp:
We’re the best in the world. We’re the best in the world at winning soccer. We’re the best in the world at winning soccer. US Women, we do not play no game, buddy, we bust you up. So don’t play about soccer, ladies, we did it down over here.

Gary Payton:
Yeah.

Warren Sapp:
Now we need that money.

Dawn Lupul:
[crosstalk 00:43:22] Now, we need a little money.

Warren Sapp:
We need that money. That schmoney.

Dawn Lupul:
It’s amazing what T.J.’s doing with mentoring the kids and everything, but we’re going to try to fix the Longhorns. I think we have to fire Shaka Smart. Six years, it hasn’t worked. We’ll get your answer on that, T.J. Is firing the way to go and who is your winner of March Madness this year?

T.J. Ford:
I’m not a person who likes to talk about someone’s getting fired. That could affect somebody’s family. What I would say …

Warren Sapp:
You’re disappointed?

T.J. Ford:
Very disappointed. Obviously, I got a lot of ties to the program. I got a lot of ties to the kids on the program, so I try to be respectful that they are putting the work in and they’re trying to get it done. They’re just not executing the game plan that we have and what the expectation is to be at the University of Texas. With that being said, we can’t make any excuses. So far, he hasn’t been able to get it done and get us anywhere, to even the Sweet 16 to allow us to enjoy history that was created. Where do we go from here? I’m not really sure because we have the talent, we have the athletes, we’re putting guys into the NBA and that’s the expectations when you come to the University of Texas. Where do we go from here, I don’t know. I don’t know what coaches is out there, I don’t know if any [crosstalk 00:44:47] people. I’m not really sure.

Warren Sapp:
Okay, all right. You guys will talk about finding a man. We ain’t going to drag it out of you, that’s good. What I want to know with the University of Texas, because you’ve got to have Brad Joe’s ass up because I was wondering what’s this basketball law that we were talking about? What about this? Other than Kevin Durant and you, what else we got?

T.J. Ford:
You got Tristan Thomas and you got [inaudible 00:45:13]. You got Cory Joseph, you got Miles [crosstalk 00:45:15].

Warren Sapp:
Tristan, what?

T.J. Ford:
Tristan Thomas.

Warren Sapp:
You talking about that Kardashian boyfriend there?

Dawn Lupul:
Mr. Kardashian.

Warren Sapp:
Boy, stop it. Boy, we’re talking about basketball. We ain’t talking about reality TV. [inaudible 00:45:28] ain’t no championships at Texas. The hell you talking about? [inaudible 00:45:33] shit at Texas. What the hell is going on? Down, down, god damn it, what the hell is going on. It’s all right to talk about firing somebody T.J., it’s okay.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:45:44]

T.J. Ford:
[crosstalk 00:45:44] play basketball pros in Miami Hurricanes.

Warren Sapp:
Whoa. We have Rick Barry, son. You got anything that … KD might pass Rick Barry. But we got Rick Barry, son.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:46:00]

Warren Sapp:
I wouldn’t give a damn. We got Rick Barry.

Gary Payton:
Come on, man. [crosstalk 00:46:08]

T.J. Ford:
Getting a rig passed Rick Barry [crosstalk 00:46:13].

Dawn Lupul:
Don’t even go there.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:46:16]

Warren Sapp:
I’ll give you that. Kevin Durant’s the most …

Dawn Lupul:
We can’t even go there. I don’t even know what to say right now. I’ll tell you. T.J., your foundation is amazing. T.J. Ford Basketball Academy, you can check that out for sure. Before we go though, we do need a winner from you for March Madness. Who are you liking right now?

T.J. Ford:
My team, I chose Gonzaga. When you look at what they have, you look at their size, you look at their coaching. He was able to see what he’s been able to put together consistently over the last few years. I really feel like this is his year, and I think he’s got a good point guard, that’s one of the top point guards in the country, that’s been a heck of a leader. And he set that tempo off for me at the beginning of the season for the first game and I got Gonzaga.

Dawn Lupul:
All right. That’s a popular pick. I know Warren’s down for that too. So T.J., thank you so much for joining us. Check it out, with T.J. Ford Basketball Academy doing wonderful work. We’ll look for you in the Houston area and you have a lot going on, a lot on your plate, and happy birthday once again. Thanks so much for joining us today.

T.J. Ford:
Thank you all and when you all come to Houston, I got to take you all out.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:47:28] That’s for real. I’ll call on you anyway. You ain’t got to worry about that.

Dawn Lupul:
We are down for that.

T.J. Ford:
[crosstalk 00:47:34]

Dawn Lupul:
T.J. Ford, here on Unfiltered. Guys, it’s always os much fun to have people joint us. I’m surprised they want to but the house is looking clean lately, we’re all getting along so well so we look forward to having many more guests. And T.J. was amazing. Here’s a little question I got to throw at you before we get to 99 seconds. With all the games being played in one area this year in March Madness in Indianapolis, do you see this being something that possibly is a thing going forward because let’s face it, the NCAA could get a lot of money from different areas bidding to have all the rights. I know, Warren. It’s a long shot.

Warren Sapp:
Let’s not give them no more ways to make no more money. Let’s spread this thing out back like we did because I don’t mind driving to Jacksonville and catching that first round game, going to Tennessee, Chattanooga, all those little places around the country and giving a chance for whole America to experience this March Madness. Let’s not centralize this thing and have people bid. Because right now, my Thursday night football is at Amazon and I ain’t got no damn Amazon Prime account.

Dawn Lupul:
Get primed up, get all primed up. [crosstalk 00:48:44]

Warren Sapp:
I’m going to have to because I’m the one watching football and I got no damn Amazon Prime. I don’t even go on through Amazon [inaudible 00:48:50]. I don’t do that, I don’t mess with that.

Dawn Lupul:
Gary, you played in the, of course, the big dance, March Madness. What would it be like if you weren’t … Traveling around is half the fun of it, isn’t it?

Gary Payton:
That is, Dawn. That’s the fun. Like what Warren said, you guys can’t just put it in one place, there’s not going to be a whole lot of people that could come get into that one city. So if you move it around, it’s more marketable. It’s more people like what Warren said that everybody could get around because most people can’t go and fly over here and spend money in a hotel. They might want to be at their homes and they can drive to a game and go there, it would be more convenient. You know what I’m saying? So it’s different cities, it will make it more interesting.

Gary Payton:
It makes it more interesting as you try to be over here in Texas and then you’re over here in the West in Las Vegas or something, and they host you there and everybody’s there. You’re trying to get to that one dance. If you stay in one city, all you got to do is go across the street and walk. You know what I’m saying. We’re not trying to do all of that, man. We’re trying to [crosstalk 00:49:51]. Yeah, spread it out and especially man, people can’t go to Sweet 16 and all of a sudden, they win and go to the championship, you’re going to stay there for one week? One week?

Dawn Lupul:
Yeah.

Gary Payton:
That’s a lot of money. [crosstalk 00:50:07]

Warren Sapp:
Indiana is no place I want to be in the springtime.

Gary Payton:
Yeah, it is. [crosstalk 00:50:10]

Dawn Lupul:
Maybe it would be in Florida. I don’t know. [crosstalk 00:50:15]

Warren Sapp:
In the dead of winter, Indiana is wonderful. They got it all indoors like we was in there for the Superbowl, that’s wonderful in the middle of February, January. But when it gets to spring, come on, man, the birds and the flowers around. Come on, man. [crosstalk 00:50:29]

Dawn Lupul:
Birds and the flowers. We’re all about birds and flowers on this show. Speaking of Mr. Florida, it is time for our favorite segment of the show as per usual. This week it is 99 Seconds with Mr. Defense, Warren Sapp.

Warren Sapp:
As we enter into the spring, we just passed the first day of spring the 21st of March, I spring back to my mind, and I go back to 2020 which was a rough year for all of us. And if you watched that March Madness commercial when my girl said everybody was a mess, that’s right, everybody was a mess. But there’s one thing that’s about to come back in 2021 that I don’t ever want to see again. In the last seven days, we’ve had seven mass shootings. That is something that has to damn stop.

Warren Sapp:
We got to do some gun legislation, take away the guns, get some background checks, whatever the hell we got to do, put some people at the front door that guards people because there’s no way in hell my mom, my sister, my auntie, go to a damn grocery store and all of a sudden, it’s damn guys shooting a god damn shot gun. That is not how we’re going to live in this country, that’s not how we want to live in this country, so we’ve got to do something about this. Seven days in a row, we’ve had mass shootings. It started in Atlanta on the 16th, went all the way to Stockton, California, went all the way to Oregon, all the way back to Houston to Dallas. This is not America.

Warren Sapp:
We’re going to get back to normal, get your ass vaccinated, put the guns away. Let’s come out have a good time because mass shootings is not something I want to see again in this damned country because that is something that it just jumps up on you and all a sudden, we got an active shooter. Nobody’s ready for that in the damned grocery store. We got enough damned trouble trying to go one damned way and come up the other damned way. Let’s get it together. Legislators in Congress take the damn guns away from these people and stop this shit. And you don’t need no damned 15 damn round clip to shoot a deer. Trust me, I love hunting. You only need one, and [crosstalk 00:52:26] if you miss that one, go your ass home to the store and go cook you some that way because you can’t shoot.

Dawn Lupul:
Beautifully said, and if anyone out there is struggling, there are so many places that you can go to get some help. If you’re feeling a little bit down and you’re feeling desperate and [crosstalk 00:52:44] reach out to somebody.

Warren Sapp:
No, a bad day is not a damn reason to kill eight people, not even a reason to go and cuss out your old lady. Come on. Throw your ass to the [inaudible 00:52:54] answers in the bottom and move your ass home and go lay down and in [inaudible 00:52:57] start another day. But that’s no reason to take an innocent life and damn sure not at the grocery store. That’s where my mama and my people be at. I’m not with that. Don’t start that shit. Come on, 2021 can’t be that. Come on.

Dawn Lupul:
No. Let’s get better. Let’s just be better. Let’s make this world a place where everyone can just live and be the best that they can be …

Warren Sapp:
Mass shooting, no.

Dawn Lupul:
[crosstalk 00:53:18] … and enjoy themselves and feel safe. I mean you guys are having kids, I mean Gary, obviously it’s [crosstalk 00:53:23].

Warren Sapp:
Now we’re going to open up the school. There better be no damn school shooting, boy.

Gary Payton:
[crosstalk 00:53:32] We better not.

Warren Sapp:
Man. God, Jesus.

Dawn Lupul:
We’ll pray for better days ahead.

Warren Sapp:
Yes.

Dawn Lupul:
And we will pray for all of our tickets to be winners because that is the name of the game. Want to thank again so much, Mr. T.J. Ford for joining us today, his birthday, and it was a pleasure to have him. And as per usual, Warren Sapp, Gary Payton, defense all around. My all stars, my Hall of Famers, my guys, my name is Dawn Lupul, I want to thank you so much for joining us on Unfiltered brought to you by BetUS, America’s favoritest sportsbook. You bet, you win, your [crosstalk 00:54:15] sweet ass gets paid. Your ass gets paid.

Warren Sapp:
[crosstalk 00:54:15]

Dawn Lupul:
We are out, see you next week.

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